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Danica Patrick takes historic pole position for Daytona 500

Discussion in 'Sports Zone' started by Doomsday101, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. Risen Star

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    People believed in Patrick Carpentier's ability to do the job. People believed in Sam Hornish Jr.'s ability to do the job. Robby Gordon. A laundry list of others. Some succeed, some fail. Not a single open wheel racer has come over in the modern era and had any real success in Nascar.
  2. Risen Star

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    Yeah, so he had the experience Danica lacked when she switched to stock cars.

    It was a really bad example.
  3. Doomsday101

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    some succeed and some fail there are no guarantees but the owners who have been in this business and know this sport much better than some message board expert are not just throwing people out of the blue into these cars. You may impress yourself but that is about it.
  4. joseephuss

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    Maybe she will have better career than Michael Waltrip. What did he go, 450+ races before ever winning? He won a total of 4 races and 4 poles in his long career and now is the head of a racing team. Would any of that have been possible if not for his last name?
  5. WPBCowboysFan

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    Yep, the pole doesnt mean a whole lot at Daytona other than the honor that goes with it.

    Loy Allen ring a bell? Had the pole in 94 and if I remember correctly he didnt even lead the first lap. No laps for that matter.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loy_Allen,_Jr.
  6. Risen Star

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    He Go Daddy commercials are sexually provocative. So she can't play the victim. She's using her sexuality.

    So to say she can't help it, no....she can. Or she could at least try and not do those kinds of things.
  7. Risen Star

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    They've all failed in the modern era. Maybe you missed that. BTW, you are also a message board poster.

    You told me she's simply doing what others have done. But those guys have failed. You told me her IRL experience makes up for a lack of stock car experience. Something nobody attached to Nascar would ever dream of claiming.

    I'm not trying to impress anybody. I'm just telling you the facts. Danica Patrick's pole doesn't impress anyone with a clue about the sport and she was definitely, not maybe, rushed into the Cup series without the experience to be anything but a danger to herself and the drivers around her. She's got Hendrick equipment. The best driver in the sport as her personal tutor. She will not finish in the top 20 in points. Maybe not even top 25. She a field filler with a lot of hype simply because of her gender.

    Now had they brought her along slowly in the lower divisions I think she'd have a shot. But they did her a disservice and she's about to get completely exposed as an ARCA level driver rubbing paint with the big boys.
  8. CanadianCowboysFan

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    It sells, what can you say.

    She does nothing illegal, nor immoral. It is no different that super models in skimpy outfits selling shoes, cologne etc.
  9. CanadianCowboysFan

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    Actually, more because she is a very attractive member of the female of the species. If she were ugly, no one would care.
  10. Risen Star

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    It means something in terms of being historic. She should be proud of being the first female to win a pole. But in terms of her ability, it doesn't mean much. It's the absolute easiest place to qualify on the circuit. That and Talledega. It's all car and aero. You get what you got from the shop. Ask any of these drivers where do they matter least in qualifying and they'll tell you it's the plate races. I've heard them say it more times than I can count.

    Watch how good she qualifies the following week.
  11. Risen Star

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    That's probably true. I don't find her attractive at all but a lot of people do.

    There's a talented lady in Nationwide who isn't considered all that attractive and she's basically been ignored. IMO, she out drove Danica last year when you consider the budget of their respective race teams.
  12. CanadianCowboysFan

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    You might be right, but would the same be said about any crappy driver qualifying for the pole if said driver had outdoor instead of indoor plumbing?
  13. Risen Star

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    If any rookie driver with Danica's hype got the pole at Daytona in Hendrick equipment I'd be saying the same thing about the accomplishment.
  14. CanadianCowboysFan

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    It is the same in the job market, the better looking women tend to get the jobs ahead of less attractive women.
  15. Risen Star

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    The bottom line to me is if Nascar is ever going to grow, the fields have to be filled by something other than all white males. If only one segment of the population has any real chance to participate in the sport it severely limits interest. I welcomed the foreign drivers but I didn't expect many results. They didn't have the stock car experience.

    They've tried in the past forcing a woman in but they didn't have the talent. I think Danica is the first who actually has the talent to at least hold her own. I just completely disagree with how they've fast tracked her to the top level.

    The minority program is a good thing and about to reap some rewards. Darrell Wallace Jr. is a very good up and coming driver. More and more girls are starting to race. This is how it needs to be done. So when they get to the top level, they have the same experience wrestling these cars as everyone else does.

    What's working in Danica's favor, IMO, is she's such a star that it has gotten her a top ride and plenty of job security. Stewart wanted to run a third team for while but couldn't do it because of sponsorship. Danica walks in with a sponsor. That's huge.
  16. Questfor6

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    Same can be said for Paul Menard, he's a nationwide series driver at best but the family business will keep him driving in the Cup Series for as long as he wants. I'm with you on the minorities coming to NASCAR because I'm sure Brian France & Mike Helton don't want NASCAR to be looked at as just a redneck sport.

    Danica is in the same boat that Bill Lester was in about 10 years ago when they basically tried to shove a black man into racing in the Cup Series. No offense to him but he wasn't even an average Truck Series driver. NASCAR's drive for diversity program since then has really found some good up & coming talent like Bubba Wallace & Kyle Larson who are both going to be household names in the next 5 years.
  17. Zordon

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    Really? She's an average looking women. She comes dime a dozen in the Dallas suburbs.
  18. WPBCowboysFan

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    Sponsor money is what its all about. If she has enough money following her and she can be somewhat competitive she will have a ride for a long time.

    In NHRA, Alexsis Dejoria has daddy's Patron sponsorship money so it worked out great for Connie Kalitta. He added another funny car to his team and she had her own sponsorship. She has money, he has the team, she has a ride.


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  19. jimmy40

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    Danica's ride, team, money >>>>> Johanna's
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