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Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by LatinMind, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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  2. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I can't say what Crawford is right now, honestly. I know people like to pretend they (and even the team) knows but it is next to impossible to say that. He has made it through exactly zero live practices in this scheme.

    For all practical purposes, anything in regards to where and what he can do is a pure projection, a lot of it based off of his college production.

    I just know it is practically insane to count on him as a starter. It is okay to hope he competes for a spot, but if he is penciled in by our staff as a starter/vital cog, we are doing it wrong again.
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  3. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    Yeah but with a coach like Marinelli, i dont see there being a problem. I have a feeling alot of fans are going to be in a bad mood if Dallas doesnt or cant trade down. Because i dont think Dallas drafts Donald at 16. I've noticed a change in Broaddus since he said that there was a rift at VR on Donald, before he was in love with Donald, would pick him if he was at 16 in a heartbeat. Now he says he wouldnt reach for Donald at 16, not til bottom RD1 or RD2. This makes me assume that there more upper level not liking Donald at 16. McClay, Marinelli that jerry is listening to. And Maybe scouts like him.

    From what ive heard on talkin cowboys, if you have Jerrys attention he will listen to you on anything you bring to him. McClay has been that guy since he brought him in.
  4. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Interesting stuff.
    Thank you. You provide some great information and conjecture. And you do this more than most.
    I appreciate it greatly. Some very good reading. You're a large part of the reason this board is the best.
  5. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Too bad the biggest chunk of McClay's experience comes from the Arena League.
  6. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    Your Welcome and thanks.

    I like listening to Broaddus and Mickey and try to take out their personal opinions, but at the same time they speak to coaches alot i noticed on info they've released on TC. In past few weeks they've let out a few things speaking to coaches.

    • they were first to let it be known Dallas wasnt going to just let marinelli walk.
    • Marinelli see's Crawford as a DT going forward
    • What coaches felt about Wares situation. Try everything to get the caphit down. dont want to lose him.
    • Coaches like Wilber, Hollomon, Wilcox, Heath and to expect more from them in 2014
    • Dallas can and probably will make a couple FA signings, Lower end.
    • If Dallas was to sign a big Fa it would probably be one of their own (Hatcher or Spencer)

    Alot of people need to take these things into consideration when thinking abou 2014. These coaches know these players are very young, so expecting them to all be replaced isnt going to happen. Im sure if the right situation happened they would make a change, but they arent going to reach to replace somebody they like and see potential in.

    I dont agree with everything they want to do, but i understand it. And i accept it and then know sorta what to expect. Because i see the direction theyre going in.
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  7. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    That sounds extremely intelligent.
  8. JoeyBoy718

    JoeyBoy718 Well-Known Member

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    I haven't been following anything. What do you mean Donald has been "playing himself out of" the first round? I wasn't under the impression that anyone has been playing. I stopped following after the Senior Bowl a few weeks ago.
  9. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    If the man can identify talent- I don't care if he comes from the Finnish League.
    I do get your point though...
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  10. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    Not playing himself out of the first round. But his situation is playing out into him not being a consensus RD1 pick. Some people have him bottom of RD1 but most think he will be a top of RD2.
  11. JoeyBoy718

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    If they resign Hatcher (who I would keep over Spencer) and plan to play Crawford at DT, then I would rather them go after a DE in the first. I don't see anyone we draft starting over Hatcher or Crawford.
  12. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    It is idiotic rhetoric. Nobody can "play themselves out of the first round" at this stage of the year, especially when they are a senior and not a mysterious underclassman nobody did their homework on. The work on this player should have been complete by now.

    What makes this statement even more flimsy is that he typically was not regarded as first round prospect until Senior Bowl week. He might flop at the Combine or something, but if someone went back and scrutinized his play recently and now downgrades him, it sounds to me that they are doing their best to talk themselves out of him for some reason.
  13. LatinMind

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    If Dallas would resign Hatcher i would hope they would go after Zack Martin if he was still there or trade down.
  14. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    If we can't draft a DT in the first better than Crawford, this class is a lot worse than I thought.
  15. JoeyBoy718

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    Then I'm all for trading back like we did last year and taking him around #31. We could use all the picks we could get to build some depth on the line.
  16. LatinMind

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    I would love that and then pick up that extra 3rd, or just use a trade like with Cleveland Swap 16 and 26 and then Swap Rd2 picks.
  17. JoeyBoy718

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    Do you see him as a OG or RT?
  18. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    That is not a practice that will pay off each and every time. It is just as likely to be a too cute move that costs you the player or the position you achieved or both.

    That technique is something Jerry Jones did in the early 2000s. He traded down, got more picks, then panicked and traded all of them and more to get back up to get his player. Classic example of this was Quincy Carter.

    If you trust the scouts, you do not get cute. You take the player.
  19. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    I would play him at G in 2014 and move him to RT in 2015.
  20. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    And who would be that player? Who do you think is worthy of that 16/17th pick?

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