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  1. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    And when you fail at it, that's somehow a 'good sign'?

    Bizarro-land.

    This is one of the most ridiculous pieces of absolute nonsense I have ever read. Congratulations.

    You 'like it', I'll take 'not'.

    You lower your standards and spin 8-8 as 'improvement', but don't try to drag me down with you.

    NFL seasons, and coaches, are mesaured by wins and losses. Not in 'trying real hard' or in 'effort'. You either win or you don't.

    Moral victories are for losers, or people making excuses.

    8-8 to 8-8 is not improvement, not by a longshot.

    Desparation by this fanbase has reached new lows.
  2. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye. Staff Member

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    It may be weak, but it's pretty much the entire basis for the "improvement" argument being made in this thread. The record isn't any better than last year's. The stats are very similar between the two seasons.
  3. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Don't think I want to continue a debate if this is the tone we're ending up with. We'll pick it up at some point in the offseason, I'm sure.
  4. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    The progress from 8-8 to another 8-8 season is staggering. The same dumb penalties and same sloppy play is progress. Jerry having the fanbase believe this is progress.
  5. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    You're right.

    And the stats support the similar nature between the two teams.

    The one stat that continues to stick out in my mind is the 70 "starter-games" lost by the team this year as opposed to the very few games lost last year.

    To end up at 8-8 despite all those injuries (and the entire Brent episode) gives the 2012 team a boost in my eyes.
  6. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough.

    I just hope you bring better material the next time.
  7. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    You two should just get a room. Quit fighting it.
  8. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It's a plan. I'll bring my good material, you bring a better attitude. It'll be much better for everybody.
  9. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    I agree Stash. More wins is improvement. Moral victories are not worth much.
  10. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I apologize if you feel my attitude is bad. It's unintentional. I have great respect for you and enjoy our healthy debates.

    I guess this is just a sensitive topic for me, especially when fans want to 'chastise' others for somehow not seeing 'improvement' in consecutive 8-8 seasons.

    I find it maddening.

    Especially when I come with the actual numbers showing that this team simply doesn't compete with the playoff-caliber teams.
  11. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    Its just as maddening when others are not allowed too see what they feel is improvement without getting trashed.
  12. pjtoadie

    pjtoadie Cleveland's #1 Cowboys fan

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    I couldn't agree more! Did you see my earlier post of the Cowboys record against playoff teams etc? We're 4-15 against teams that are 8-8 or better and 12-1 against teams that are below .500. Don't really see much improvement!
  13. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    Check out this thread and see which side is using terms like 'dumb', 'stupid', and '******' and get back to me.

    All the while with no tangible support for their position.

    It's like kindergarten.
  14. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    "This is one of the most ridiculous pieces of absolute nonsense I have ever read. Congratulations."

    Stuff like that?
  15. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but some choose to not see it...

    :blind:

    Or hear it...

    :insane:

    Or admit it...

    :zipit:
  16. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Why is this supposed to be such a negative? I mean, other than not winning more games, overall? It indicates that the team is consistently winning the games it should, and consistently getting beat by the better teams in the league.

    We all now where our personnel holes are. That's about as cut-and-dry an improvement project as you're going to get.
  17. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    More like this gem I guess you're pretending not to see:

    "Can't qoute for obvious reasons, but someone just stepped up from semi-moronic to full ******.....:laugh2:"
  18. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    Not gonna go back and read drivel from all sides, sorry.
  19. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    That's enough right there. Nothing more needed.


    And why should they not beat the better teams in this league? What is the possible excuse for that?

    An 'improvement project' now? That's the latest excuse?

    If it's an 'improvement project', it's one created by the same people everyone is clammoring to keep in charge.

    Fail.
  20. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    Nah, just cherry-pick and try to attack me.

    Classy.

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