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Detroit girl, 4, kills cousin with rifle

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by barney, Jan 18, 2014.

  1. barney

    barney Active Member

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    A four-year-old shot and killed her young cousin with a rifle she found in her grandfather's Detroit home. Why was it loaded? Why was it left out?
     
  2. pjtoadie

    pjtoadie Cleveland's #1 Cowboys fan

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  3. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Video report said that it was a 30 caliber rifle.


    Two people have been arrested in connection with a shooting incident where a 4-year-old girl accidentally shot her 4-year-old cousin to death with a loaded rifle that she found under a bed in a Detroit home.

    The two, the boy's grandparents, are being held pending charges of felon in possession of a firearm. The grandparents live in the home.

    Detroit Police Chief James Craig said two are both convicted felons but said more information would be released after an arraignment. Police are not ruling out additional charges.


    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...old/-/1719418/23978764/-/l3f7fqz/-/index.html
     
  4. barney

    barney Active Member

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    another death which was so so preventable
     
  5. PJTHEDOORS

    PJTHEDOORS Well-Known Member

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    Guess some people value guns over kids safety.
     
  6. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    I imagine they don't have many child proof locks or safety devices on many things in their domicile.
     
  7. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Very rare, but even just one like this is heartbreaking.

    Kid could have stuck a butter knife in to a light socket and had the same results.

    Whoever owned that loaded gun is I trouble though.
     
  8. barney

    barney Active Member

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    Whoever owned that gun is brain dead children see adults do something and think they can use do it its a childs nature what a ****e grandfather
     
  9. arglebargle

    arglebargle Well-Known Member

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    Basic gun safety fubar. Especially with young children in the house. Those responsible should get charged.
     
  10. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/10LCID_All_Deaths_By_Age_Group_2010-a.pdf

    Over 40,000 people die in the US every year from motor vehicle accidents and about 5% are children. MVAs are the most common cause of accident related deaths in the US and accidents are the most common cause of death in children over the age of one.

    Firearm related deaths are much less prevalent although one is too much. But one is too much for unintentional drowning or any other preventable death esp homicide and negligent homicide.

    In undeveloped countries illness esp malaria and AIDS as well as malnourishment and starvation are the most common. The five year mortality rate for Nigeria in 1996 was over 50% with the 1 year survival rate roughly the same.

    If you want to make noise about GSW's and deaths then make more about all the other causes esp those involving alcohol related motor vehicle accidents.

    You can fire back if you've ever had to walk out and tell a parent their child was dead whatever the cause and esp unintentional GSWs from other children.

    And yes those two are negligent in the death of that child and should suffer consequences.
     
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  11. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    idiots all too often live through things while the innocents do not. Drunk driving being the biggest example of that. Here is a case of pure negligence. If you have to keep a loaded rifle (for home defense) put it high on a wall without any way for a child to get at it. You can if you need it but they cannot.

    In the old days people kept a loaded shotgun over the mantle of the fireplace. Easy to get to for an adult but not for a child.
     
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  12. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Guess you missed the part about them being convicted felons

    The guns were already illegal for them to have ....... yet they had them anyway.
     
  13. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    That's just icing on the cake.
     
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  14. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    not sure if this is correct but I think some states will allow convicted felons to have rifles or shotguns but not hand guns.
     
  15. PJTHEDOORS

    PJTHEDOORS Well-Known Member

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    Didn't miss any part. Just said some people value guns over child safety. People in general, not the ones in the article per say.
     
  16. Wheeltax

    Wheeltax Well-Known Member

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    That would be the first I've ever heard that. Fairly certain that convicted felons are not allowed to possess firearms of any type anywhere.
     
  17. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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  18. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    Loaded weapons are hidden when children are in my home in a place they can't get to without
    I think they used to be able to possess a legal shotgun in my state. I'm not certain that applies anymore.
     
  19. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    There may be rare cases but most guns that legally purchased go through teh FBI NICS unless its face to face that some states allow for hunting rifles and shotguns (unregulated Firearms)

    I am a firearms owner all my guns that are being used for HD are kept loaded, unchambered, and locked up, they are locked up but easily accessible. I keep one firearm on each floor of my house. I have numerous others locked up in cabinets and safes without ammo in them but magazines are close by.

    HD guns are useless without their mags and there are many groups that say if you have gun in the house keep the ammo somewhere else that is no where convenient to the gun which defeats the purpose of a HD gun.
     
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  20. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    Wow, .. where do you live?
     

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