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News: Difference between Seahawks, Cowboys comes from the draft

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by morasp, Jan 31, 2014.

  1. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    The Seahawks won 9 games in the TWO years before Carroll arrived.
    It was easy to have zero commitment to anyone.
    They had a ton of high draft picks and no idea who'd be the QB.
    Russell Wilson won the job and that saved them a fortune for a very mediocre Flynn.

    They won 7 games each of the first two seasons under Carroll.
    But he collected young, cheap talent.
    They've made both good and bad decisions(paying a WR a fortune to watch from the sidelines?) and have had more money and higher draft picks than just about anyone to play with.
    Zero argument they've done a great job but let's not be childish and pretend it was all a level playing field where they just beasted the field.

    They won 23 games from 2008-2011. That's not quite the 3x5-11 years here but pretty close.
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  2. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    2 picks after Sherman Seattle selected another DB, Mark LeGree. He never made it out of pre-season with them.
    Seattle has collected a lot of picks and overall drafted well but their 5th round draft history the past 4 years is littered with trash ... and the 2 All Pro, Sherman/Chancellor.

    http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/teams/seahawks
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  3. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    It's legit to knock a team for picking a guy who turns out to be a star in late rounds? Are you serious? The Seahawks have 8 guys who have made big plays on the field tonight who they have drafted in the 4th round or later since 2010. That's not an anomoly.
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  4. JonJon

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    It's called smart drafting. If the Seahawks had a high grade on a guy that they could get late in the draft, why pull the trigger early? You have to consider price of contracts in your drafting as well. Getting a starter with a low salary is heaven for a few years and it worked out well for them.
  5. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    This all assumes that Sherman and Chancellor would have been the same players had they been drafted by the Cowboys. I don't think they would have. They may have been talented, but I don't think they would have fulfill their full potential here.
  6. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    It is indeed a numbers game.

    Jimmy Johnson knew that, that is why he stockpiled picks. He also blew a bunch of them. So did Gil Brandt back in the day. For every Dirty Dozen class like he had in 1975, he had huge busts.
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  7. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    Don't deceive yourself. Our problem is and will always be leadership, which starts at the top. We have only one playoff win since 1997. And yet our GM/Ownership remains the same. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know what our problem is.
  8. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Your sarcasm meter is broken.
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  9. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    Was I being sarcastic? ;)
  10. JonJon

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    Their early development is sure to have included a hamstring injury or two, and possibly missed rookie training camps. :(
  11. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Err. Nevermind.
  12. Spectre

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    This kind of comparison could be made between most any two NFL teams at most any time. So and so took so and so when so and so was still on the board. Much of the draft is hindsight 20/20. Dallas' drafts have sucked a good bit in recent years. Likely the biggest difference between the 2 teams is chemistry- particularly between the coach and QB. And the crowd support/energy in Seattle puts Dallas' to shame. That goes a looong way when a team has a fast defense.

    P.S. We also got Dez Bryant and Sean Lee in that draft. 2 of the best (and youngest) players in the NFL at their respective positions.
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  13. rwalters31

    rwalters31 Active Member

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    Point made in this Super Bowl!! Jerry, you are phoney GM who has no idea how to build a team. Please get a GM who knows how to draft Super Bowl players, coaches that can teach, motivate, and plan to win games. We the Fans expect more than you can deliver!!
  14. IrishAnto

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    It's not just the DL or secondary, the OL is another area that once you go past the 2nd round we have great difficulty in developing talent.

    Really it’s a team wide problem.
  15. lostar2009

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    Also for some reason we spend most of our prime picks on TEs, WR, CB , RB if not that were trading away picks for no reason... Roy Willams trade, MO. The point is Dallas knew they were moving to a new defensive skin and never really plan or draft for it. You cant always try to rack up on udfas then wonder why this part of your scheme sucks...Will Allen vs Jeff Heath... Ill rather sign a vet that has some juice left.
  16. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Two of Seattle's top difference makers were free agents in 2013. They signed both Cliff Avril and Michael Bennett in free agency prior to the 2013 season. Marshawn Lynch was not drafted by Seattle.
  17. khiladi

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    Sorry, but their coaches know what they are doing... You think these players would look phenomenal with our defense. I can't count the times Carr laid Megatron off to some player in the zone, with only that guy not being there.
  18. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    A lot of teams were just as miserable, with just as much and still waffling in misery.
  19. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    Jason Garrett has clearly stated the draft philosophy is to take the best player available. Our team doesn't have a philosophy and direction.
  20. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    Difference between Seahawks, Cowboys begins and ends with the GM.

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