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DMN Camp Blog: Cowboys sign kicker, release 3, and TO thoughts *updated*

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WoodysGirl, Jul 31, 2006.

  1. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh..... that was cold Mikial.

    BTW, good afternoon to you.
  2. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    LOL!!!!

    I'm just having some fun with Sago1. I like folks that have opinions and aren't scared to share them.

    Afternoon ABQ.

    Blistering hot hear in western NY State. This ain't right. :)
  3. DezBRomo9

    DezBRomo9 Not enough blitzing.. Zone Supporter

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    You got A/C right? Back when I lived in Rochester, I remember the summers and always likened them to living in "he77" because I didnt have A/C or a pool.
  4. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    that is particularly funny as we all know what sort of relationship Bill has with kickers. I'm positive that he and Vini were real tight
  5. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Yet Bill told Adam the best advice was to stay where he was (patriots) because he was such a local hero and had it made.

    Couple of other things to think about.

    Bill had a short stay at New England so maybe he did not have as strong of a connection with Adam as Adam was brought in by bill and was not as known as the great kicker at that time.

    Another thing to consider. Bill did not bring Adam to the Jets after he left the Pats.
  6. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Stop moaning and groaning about "hot" in NY! :eek:

    Come out West if you want HOT! And, that goes for the ladies out here, too! ;)

    :star:
  7. cowboyeric8

    cowboyeric8 Chicks dig crutches

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    I want a kicker, who can kick, punt, and kick off. Are all these specialties really that different?
  8. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Depends what part of west you are talking about.

    With some places there is dry heat.

    I know here in WV the humidity has been terrible.

    So far I can think of only one day this summer (free of rain) where it was not so bad with humidity that it has been so hazy that it looks like early morning fog.

    Just been terrible this summer.

    I have lived in dry heat and areas and areas with bad humidity.

    Dry heat may be more dangerous because you don't realize how much fluid you lose but the high humidity areas are just miserable and worse IMO.
  9. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    And I remember you had people jumping on his case because that comment seemed like Coach Parcells was steering him away from Dallas.:laugh2:
  10. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Well you gotta remember...Bill is only here to destroy the team because he is really here to help the Giants. :p:
  11. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    Actually he did, problem was they weren't on kickoffs but on missed 25 yard FGs.
  12. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    That's not "all". He had nine total touchbacks. And that was supposedly his strength. In comparison, Rackers had 22. That's booming them out of the endzone.
  13. cleverusername

    cleverusername New Member

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    Thats an easy one. Especially since Bill used to be a kicking coach and takes pride in finding and developing young kickers. A lot of people think the kicking game is one of the most important aspects of a Parcells coached team.
  14. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    :laugh2:
  15. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Zone Supporter

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    The coaches do not have a choice in the matter. They do not set the schedule. The games must be played. If a coach does not attempt to play his starters in preseason games as equally as other coaches, his starters and backup players (i.e. depth) would suffer from less practice/repetition/preparation. The same goes for training camp. My suggestion would apply to every team.

    Plus, coaches do cut back on the amount of minutes their starters put in during preseason games, but this usually happens during the final preseason game. This helps lessen the chance for injuries, etc., but even if any player (starter or backup) is on the field for any length of time--it doesn't eliminate the possibility of something happening which could've been prevented if the games were not played.
    I never said they were idiots. They do adhere to the preseason schedule because it must be played. Again, unless a coach knows that he has a bonafide, sure-fire Super Bowl winner, he's not going to cut back on the amount of work his players need to be successful for the regular season. He's only going to cut back so much on the amount of reps he thinks his players need.
  16. Colo

    Colo Rocky Mountain High

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    I'm not aware of any rule that says coaches must play their starters a certain amount of minutes during preseason games.

    Gee, thanks for enlightening me.

    Agree completely. The coach is given a specified amount of time allocated for TC that he is not allowed to exceed without ramifications from the league. Again, I may be mistaken, but I don't think it's written anywhere in league policy that teams must practice for a minimum of X number of hours. If a coach and owner truly thought his team would benifit from less work during TC and PS, they'd play their starters less during preseason and work them less during training camp. If the length of TC and PS are what the problem is, why wouldn't a coach do as much as he could within the rules to eliminate the problem?

    Honestly, I don't really care one way or the other about the number of PS games or how long TC is. I am only concerned with what happens when it counts. I just don't agree that the length of TC and PS is the problem. If it was, they'd do something about it.
  17. DallasEast

    DallasEast Cowboys 24/7/365 Zone Supporter

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    For that matter, there isn't a rule that states that coaches have to play anyone during the preseason.
    You're welcome.
    ...

    :confused:

    Okay.

    I understand where you're coming from.

    This is where I'm coming from.

    I see very little reasoning behind the necessity of teams playing more than two preseason games. In addition, regardless, let me repeat, regardless of the number of minutes that starters and/or backup players actually put in practices, scrimmages and/or preseason games, the length of the preseason itself increases the likelihood of injury to any player.

    The fundamental purpose of the preseason is to prepare teams for regular season games. IMO, the extra 2 or 3 preseason games are marketing tools geared to help further promote the start of the regular season. I believe that a 4-or-5 game preseason schedule does not significantly improve the quality of play during the first one or two regular season games; and that it simply lengthens the grind which players must endure each year.

    When the regular season was set at 14 games and the wild card round was absent, a 4-or-5 game preseason schedule made more sense for the NFL player healthwise. It doesn't with a 16 game regular season and (for some teams) an additional playoff round.
  18. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    I'd rather have Wahle and Vinateri than Rivera and Vandy.
  19. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    Sure -- but they wouldn't rather be in Dallas. That was the point.

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