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DMN: Cowlishaw: Where's the outrage for the Pro Football Hall of Fame procedures?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by jobberone, Feb 3, 2014.

  1. Fritsch_the_cat

    Fritsch_the_cat Well-Known Member

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    Haley, certainly. And if there has ever been a better safety in the game of football than Darren Woodson, I'd like to know who it is. Solid game all around and a true warrior.
  2. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    Believe it or not, but Jerry Jones will be in the HOF one day. As an owner, not a GM.
  3. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    Ronnie Lott and Ed Reed come to mind, off the top of my head.
  4. Fritsch_the_cat

    Fritsch_the_cat Well-Known Member

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    Better than Woody? No way. Just as good, but not better.
  5. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    Fair enough.

    I would take Woodson myself, .. but there have been a lot of really good safeties over the years.
  6. DBOY3141

    DBOY3141 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there's been a safety better than Lott, can cover and hit. He was a beast.
  7. Fritsch_the_cat

    Fritsch_the_cat Well-Known Member

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    That's why I said "if there has ever been a better safety". I wasn't saying he was the best ever, just one of the best.
  8. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    I really think that, had Haley had a better disposition and not half a history of being a bully in the lockerroom and off the field (peeing on cars) he'd be in. Plus, I don't think he gained any good feelings, when, after games, he'd showcase his homely daughter to the cameras.
  9. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    You dont think he gets in as a GM? Really? What makes you think that? :D
  10. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    wow. just wow

    if you cannot look at that post and figure out what is wrong with it then there is truly no hope for you at all

    but here is just a small hint why you are completely wrong

    How many sportswriters are involved? 46

    How many ex players and ex coaches are available vote on each candidate?

    Do a little math and then sit down and let the adults talk
  11. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    Both should be in. Haley's impact isn't measured simply in sacks. The guy was as disruptive a force up front as any player I've seen. By just having him there the jobs of Jim Jeffcoat and Tony Tolbert were made 100% easier.
  12. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    Without a doubt the best safety I've had the privaledge of watching in my lifetime. The guy was just incredible.

    Woodson was a damn fine safety that I was always proud of seeing play with the Star on his helmet. I'd definately say he deserves to be in one day.
  13. dogunwo

    dogunwo Waves that make you sea-sick

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    Wasn't there something in the past that Haley wasn't a "media" guy? So if a player isn't all that friendly with the media he wont get in? Randy Moss and TO are never getting voted in.
  14. KB1122

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    Woodson would be my first choice. Three-time first-team All-Pro. But he'll have to wait on Steve Atwater for sure. Probably Lee Roy Butler. Somehow Woodson got completely snubbed from the All-Decade Team.
  15. KB1122

    KB1122 Well-Known Member

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    There are also 2 first-team All-Decade players from the 1970s who are not in the Hall of Fame. Both are Cowboys (Drew Pearson and Cliff Harris).
  16. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasing Zone Supporter

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    Haley most definitely and would say if Reed qualifies, Woodson should qualify but both are more ROH types as opposed to HOFs. Woodson really was under appreciated as one of the few Safeties who also played the team's primary slot cb in the nickel (Kam Chancellor hits) . Lynch would get the media glory/PBs because of a few head hunter shots, but Woody was by far the better player (who made Lynch type hits every game but weren't as glamorized by media types) Lynch was nowhere near as integral to the D is one of my all time favorites.

    Woody made Kam Chancellor hits multiple times a game before they appeared a violent as they do now considering how infrequent they in the current game bc of the puss rules.
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  17. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    From what I've read Woodson and Butler pretty much cancel each other out. Both played a long time, both played in roughly the same era, both had very similar stats, both played for Superbowl teams, etc etc.
  18. KB1122

    KB1122 Well-Known Member

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  19. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    Martin doesn't belong in the conversation for greatest RB of all time or anything like that, but I don't see how there is any question he's a HOF lock. He has a far stronger case than Davis (which has obviously played out). I don't really have a problem with TD in the HOF, but when you venture that far down the list there aren't many HOFers and the ones who are played shorter seasons and had shorter careers.
  20. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    Do your math. And try to have the grace to keep the condensationatory stuph to yourself.
    46 sportswriters or 2 or 1,000. It don't matter.
    the writers half an overview not influenced by direct day-to-day events or those in other years that coaches and players would half.

    If you think anyone else other thatn writers can do a better job, hurray for you. Hurray!
    Now, allow others to half a different point of view, and I hope it won't bother you too much to be able to let others half it.

    Your post is very arrogant, btw.

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