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DMN: Jerry Jones has lots of voices in his head — it's method, not madness

Discussion in 'News Zone' started by Risen Star, Mar 22, 2014.

  1. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

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    Also, I'd like to add, in the meantime, we've had a newly signed free agent (Henry Melton) come out and say that Jerry wasn't involved in the contract negotiation at all and this thread is still going.

    Interesting to see if those who championed Henry Melton's signing will change their story now. My guess is no.
  2. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy had a lot of choice selection slots. That is true. And when he came into the league the rest of the GMs thought he was a rube and could be fleeced. The Mike Lynn raping on the Walker deal woke the league up to how shrewd Jimbo was.

    As far as the announcers. They surely had boots on the ground with Dallas and had spoken to all the significant people in the organization.

    So many times people here reject the media because they say something that doesn't suit people.

    I'd suggest they know more than the collective wisdom of this board. Note Jerry didn't correct them either.
  3. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever noticed that when the Cowboys change coordinators it's because they don't know what they're doing but when other teams do the same thing it's because they're trying to find the right guy to utilize the players they have and get the most out of them. Garrett is the only coach I've ever seen "Lose control" of the offense, all other coaches just try to find the right guy.
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  4. TwoDeep3

    TwoDeep3 Well-Known Member

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    Have you noticed other teams allow the head coach to dictate his staff for the most part but Dallas does not and Jerry hires them?

    Wonder why that is?
  5. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Well, you know its different in Big D - Garrett is still in training so it must be that he doesnt know what he's doing.
  6. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    It's not a literal "there is no plan." There's little question that what you and others like to allude to -- I'll call it the "Garrett Plan" -- does not exist any longer. The Cowboys are probably in their 10th iteration of "a plan" since Garrett came to town. And it's certainly not being run by Garrett. I sincerely doubt the "Garrett Plan" included three different offensive coordinator/playcallers, and three different defensive coordinators in three seasons.

    When you don't have a well-defined plan, it's closer to no plan than it is to the high esteem you Garrett-huggers give his plan.
  7. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    Every move we make is wrong, every single time. If other teams make the same move, it is right. Every single time. Don't dare compare the Cowboys to the best teams in the NFL. Really don't compare them to the worst teams because it shows how far we have fallen. Just don't compare them. Don't compare the players. No comparisons allowed.

    If they somehow silence the critics and win it all, watch the gears strip, but don't tell anyone they have stripped their gears slamming their agenda into reverse. No sir, don't you dare do that.
  8. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    What I wonder is how you or anyone else knows this to be the case?
  9. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    So the plan cant change to be better suited to the situation? And why wouldnt Garrett make changes? Nobody here seems satisfied with the results so it would be odd to think the HC would be satisfied with them? Changing something that isnt working as well as it could or should is a good plan in most cases.
  10. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    That's clearly not what the Cowboys do. Jerry had a defense full of guys who had spent their entire NFL career playing the 3-4. Then he brings in Monte Kiffin who is a well-known 4-3 defensive guy. Then, correct me if I'm wrong, but Jerry didn't sign a single free agent along the line to play the new system, and one LB who had played in the 4-3 in the NFL. He didn't draft a single DL and drafted one LB in the 6th round. In what world is that "finding the right guy to utilize the players they have and get the most out of them?"

    Anyone remember the upheaval on the defensive roster when Parcells got here and switched to the 3-4? Nothing remotely similar to that happened last off-season.
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  11. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    If you're going to change the plan every year, that's not a plan. That's called winging it, like I said above.
  12. AmberBeer

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    "The lunatic is in my head, ha ha ha..." Pink Floyd - The Wall. Jerry must've went to the same concert at the old Texas stadium and took some shrooms.
  13. OhSnap

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    So your telling me 31 other teams let the head coach hire the staff and the Cowboys don't? The Cowboys have done it both ways and so have other teams.
  14. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Or being smart enough and flexible enough to recognize where the plan can be tweaked to allow for better results in a results business. A stringent rigid plan is only good if its applied in an environment that isnt ever changing and evolving.

    I know acknowledging this doesnt fit the narrative or agenda . . . . . . . . . .
  15. Aurican

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    So Garrett is not the right guy, the one who was the actual offensive coordinator before he took over and was an offensive genius according to some? Now he's trying to find the right guy of his own accord and choosing to brush up on defense instead of calling plays? And all of this was done due to his master plan? Please tell us some more, I enjoy these tales.
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  16. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    Just like acknowledging the fact that there is no "Garrett plan" is devastating to your pro-Garrett agenda.

    Do you think it was Garrett's idea to step down from playcalling? That will tell me all I need to know.
  17. dreghorn2

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    Assuming that it was Garretts' idea to no longer call plays, then no longer be active in the game plan, and now to place his focus on the defense is a little naive.
  18. visionary

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    you forgot firing his brother

    laughable
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  19. MarionBarberThe4th

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    We change and add coaches bc simple fans need things to point to as a source as optimism . Then when the cowboys still don't win it's b/c of the execution of the plays not the play calls themselves. Or....the devestrimg I juries. How's mike Wiocick working out? Adding any wins?
    It's all to keep fans busy. The cowboys are always .500 b/c Jerry doesn't draft well.
  20. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    I don't think any incoming DC would have said "Hey we need to get rid of Spencer and Ware they only had 22 sacks last year and this 4-3 stuff is gonna be way over their heads so lets get us a FA or 2 and a rookie and we'll just start over." Do you really think Parcells woulda gotten rid of the guys that were supposed to start last year? Youd get run outta someones office if you tried that.

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