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News: DMN: Monte Kiffin: Cowboys defenders should study Seahawks’ 2012 defense

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    By Jon Machota / Special Contributor
    jmachota@dallasnews.com
    5:17 pm on February 12, 2013 | Permalink

    How will the Dallas Cowboys’ new 4-3 defensive scheme look next season? Monte Kiffin says watch film of the 2012 Seattle Seahawks if you want an example.

    During a Monday interview on 105.3 The Fan [KRLD-FM] Cowboys defensive lineman Jason Hatcher said he chatted with Kiffin two-to-three weeks ago about the defensive scheme change the team would be making. Kiffin didn’t confirm where Hatcher would be playing – Hatcher said he thinks it will be at the three-technique tackle position – but advised the 30-year-old to study tape of the Seahawks’ defense.

    On Tuesday, Cowboys cornerback Brandon Carr said Kiffin gave him the same advice.

    “He said the exact same thing,” Carr said on 105.3. “I kind of asked him what our philosophy and what the look of our defense was going to be, and as a prime example he said, ‘Go see Seattle film and you’ll probably learn a lot from those guys and just watch how they move on the field.’ That’s some homework for me to do for the next couple of weeks.”

    Carr and Hatcher both mentioned how they liked the aggressiveness that Seattle showed.

    Read the rest: http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2...efenders-to-study-seahawks-2012-defense.html/
  2. juck

    juck Well-Known Member

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    Well we need a Real Safety then.
  3. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    and a real DL
  4. Flinger

    Flinger Active Member

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    ... a real direction on Defense, not smoke and mirrors. Something you can see. Something players can figure out what is expected of them because of its elegance and simplicity.

    ... a real head coach that makes the right decision evolving the offensive and defensive units to become stronger

    ... a clear Defensive system for which current and future player retention/acquisition can be measured according to clearly defined roles

    Finally, the future is filled with hope...
  5. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    If Kiffin can get these guys to hustle to the ball as the Seahawks do, that will go a long way in helping this defense and creating turnovers.

    Seattle like the Bears has 2 guy on the ball carrier and 1 guy ripping the ball out you don’t hope for turnovers you create them you take the ball away from the offensive player.

    When you get guys hustling to the ball good things happen when guys are standing around assuming someone else will make the play then you can forget about it.
  6. CowboysYanksLakers

    CowboysYanksLakers Well-Known Member

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    I really like the physical nature of Seattle's 4-3... They get after it!
  7. CowboysYanksLakers

    CowboysYanksLakers Well-Known Member

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    I agree... I remember watching the old Bucs defense and you'd see like 3 or 4 guys gang tackling and causing turnovers!
  8. mmillman

    mmillman Well-Known Member

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    Seattle makes it work with 3 pro bowlers and hitters in their secondary. Dallas doesn't have that kind of talent in the secondary. Dallas might have an edge on the pass rush.

    I like the idea of Spencer and Ware rushing the QB every passing down. It was frustrating to watch Ware and Spencer too often drop back in coverage and no pressure put on the QB.
  9. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Sherman was a 6th round draft pick and Browner was an undrafted free agent who had spent 4 years playing in the playing in the Canandian Football League. Maybe these guys weren't widely considered all world talents in the NFL before they came to Seattle's system.

    It's kinda interesting to me that Kiffin mentioned Seattle rather than Chicago. Seems like Dallas plans to utilize the more evolved Gus Bradley version of the Tampa defense than the old fashioned vanilla Lovie Smith version
  10. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    The only secondary edge they have is Earl Thomas at safety.
  11. koolaid

    koolaid Drink Me

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    I think Richard Sherman is the best corner in the NFL right now.
  12. ManicDepressiveMan

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    :laugh2:

    Every starter in their secondary is superior to ours.

    Sherman > Carr

    Browner > Claiborne

    Thomas > Sensabaugh

    Chancellor > Church
  13. Wood

    Wood Well-Known Member

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    not only that but Sherman, Browner, Chacellor all over 6'2" and very physical. Claiborne is more finese than physical and not having an Earl Thomas is huge problem. The only edge for Dallas I can see is Ware.
  14. newnationcb

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    Well guys, are we changing it now? Cause I thought it all started with the front 7?

    If so, virtually every one of our projected starters is superior.

    Ware>Clemons
    Hatcher>Branch
    Rat>Mebane (Question mark; better pass rusher for sure)
    Spencer>Bryant as pass rusher and >>>>Irvin as run stopper

    Lee>Wagner
    Bruce Carter>KJ Wright
    Leroy Hill> ????
  15. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    I think Seattle is proof that scheme means everything.
  16. weaver21

    weaver21 Active Member

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    Are you serious? Our front 7 is way better than theirs. You honestly think Bobby Wagner and K.J. Wright are better than Lee and Carter? Or Red Bryant is better than Spencer? Hell, even Alan Branch isn't better than Hatcher and when healthy, Ratliff is better than Brandon Mebane. Seattle may have a better secondary, but their front seven isn't better than ours.
  17. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    And effort. Not saying our guys dogged it, but Seattle's D was extremely physical and spirited last year.

    Some of that is confidence and belief, too.

    But yeah, I like newnation's point. Wonder if a certain poster will see it...
  18. Bluestang

    Bluestang Well-Known Member

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    I like the fact that this defense is getting away from two-gapping which doesn't take advantage of the speed we have on the DL.
  19. ddh33

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    I have been very intrigued by that comment this week as well. I have, particularly, been interested in what that means for Hatcher. I wondered if it gave credence to the idea of playing Hatcher as the SDE the way the Seahawks play Red Bryant.

    In any case, I loved watching the Seahawks last season, and if the Cowboys defense looked anything like that, I would be pretty pleased.
  20. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    In that interview today, Kiffin was asked about this and at the end he said don't worry, there will be plenty of Bucs and Bears in there, too.

    Plus he went through each position on defense and said he thinks we have 34 OLBs who can put their hand on the ground, and said he thinks we have the two tackles. Of course he'll tailor it once he sees how good the players are and what they can do, but it sounds to me like a fairly conventional 43.

    Plus you have to remember he was telling Carr to look at Seattle. Probably because they didn't played more bump and single high safety than the old Bucs did. And Kiffin mentioned those two things today.

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