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News: DMN: Philip Rivers: Brandon Carr didn’t bait me into throwing an interception

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    By Jon Machota / Special Contributor
    jmachota@dallasnews.com
    12:38 pm on August 22, 2012 | Permalink

    Cowboys cornerback Brandon Carr intercepted Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers twice Saturday night. On the first pick, Carr made it sound as if he baited Rivers into throwing deep for Robert Meachem. Rivers threw short of his intended receiver and Carr made the leaping grab.

    Carr said he got the technique from watching Deion Sanders. Rivers said he wasn’t baited at all.

    “No, he made a really good play and he’s a really good corner, but it was a horrible throw,” Rivers told XX Sports Radio in San Diego, according to SportsRadioInterviews.com. “It was horribly underthrown. If I throw that a little earlier and a little further then it’s a 60-yard touchdown. … If I throw the ball that I need to throw, then it’s a completion. … I don’t fault him at all for saying that, because when we throw a touchdown we obviously think it’s a good play but they obviously think, “Ah, we let them do that.’ That’s how it works in this league. … I’ve been baited into some — that wasn’t one of them.”


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  2. newlander

    newlander Well-Known Member

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    Phil is a lil' insecure: who cares if he baited you or not Phil? It's preseason........it's practically PRACTICE!!!:rolleyes:
  3. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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  4. nalam

    nalam The realist Zone Supporter

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    He is pxssed that he got intercepted twice by Carr :)
  5. 8FOR!3

    8FOR!3 Well-Known Member

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    lol if that play isn't the definition of getting baited idk what is.
  6. RoyTheHammer

    RoyTheHammer Well-Known Member

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    He's right, he didn't bait him.. but who cares? lol
  7. ravidubey

    ravidubey Active Member

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    Rivers let the ball fly because he was pressured and Carr was trailing. The throw was short because Rivers threw off his back foot. But Carr's makeup speed proved it was not just a bad throw but also a bad decision. Rivers thought he had an easy shot but he didn't as Carr's makeup speed lessened the margin for error more than Rivers thought.

    Just having a guy who can consistently make the other team pay for making a bad throw is huge.
  8. jimnabby

    jimnabby Well-Known Member

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    Really? Rivers is right; that ball was horribly underthrown. Carr might have been baiting him and maybe he could've caught up on a well-thrown ball, but it didn't matter when the pass was that bad.
  9. CoCo

    CoCo Well-Known Member

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    I don't have a problem with Rivers take on it. Respecting Carr, but sharing a different opinion. And he's probably right.

    Nevertheless, good play by Carr. Got to be opportunistic.
  10. Dallas

    Dallas Old bulletproof tiger

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    You obviously care enough to clarify it, so you care it seems. :)


    Me personally, I don't care. I am just glad Brandon has great hands and is the obvious massive upgrade this secondary needed.
  11. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Do some of you guys even understand what baiting a qb is? He let the wr get a step on him and was watching the qb and the ball and followed the flight of the ball rather than the wr. This is what Deion did all the time and Carr did it perfectly. If Rivers threw it deeper then Carr would have tracked it down still and the only bad outcome would have been a batted down pass if the wr had tracked it also.
  12. aikemirv

    aikemirv Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if he baited him or not because I did not see how the Wr got past him. I do know there is a 50/50 chance that Newman would have gotton behind the WR and tried to jump over his back.

    Sorry Terrance - I liked you in your prime but last year was just awful!
  13. PhillyCowboysFan

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    So he could not have thrown a perfect pass and lead the receiver in a way that Carr couldn't have gotten to the ball?

    Please look at that play again. The receiver diffidently had to slow up! If a receiver ever slows down for a ball, it's underthrown. And Carr made a play because of it. I'll take it!
  14. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Carr slowed up did you see that? Do you understand what is to bait a qb?
  15. hairic

    hairic Well-Known Member

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  16. PhillyCowboysFan

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    Did you see that the receiver had to slow up and turn all the way around? Do you understand what an underthrown ball is?

    Look Carr made a play and I will take it because it probably would have been interference on #41. But a perfectly thrown ball the receiever is cathing the ball without out turning around and in full stride!
  17. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    Well duh. Any perfectly thrown pass is going to be completed.

    I don't disagree with Rivers here. I don't think 'baited' is the right word to use here.

    However, Carr showed his closing speed on Meach and it would have taken a much better pass to beat him. I don't think Meachem had Carr beat to the point where any decent pass would have been a completion.
  18. PhillyCowboysFan

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    Meachem had to slow up and turn his body around. That's an underthrown ball! Well DAH!
  19. jimnabby

    jimnabby Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how anyone can watch that play and say that it shows Carr's "closing speed". Meachem tried to stop because the ball was so far behind him. Carr closed because Meachem came to him, not the other way around.

    I'm not saying Carr doesn't have closing speed, and I'm not saying that he couldn't have closed on him. But this play didn't demonstrate those things.
  20. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    :facepalm: Do you not understand that had the ball been thrown further, Carr wouldn't have slowed down!

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