Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by TheDallasDon, Jan 9, 2012.
That the old school way of playing football is not dead after all???
It prove it if your QB is built like a FB. :laugh2:
Most teams are not going to put their QB in harms way with Tebow that is just part of his game. Even among spread formation offense most of the QB's are not going to survive the hits
It proves if you have a good defense and oline, even a team with a QB who can't complete half his passes can still win.
I'd been wondering for a couple of years if you could take something like an old single wing or shotgun offense and grab a couple of those college QBs who weren't up to NFL standards, and run a viable scheme.
Apparantly, you can.
Will be interesting to see what Denver's offense looks like next year, after a full offseason to work, teach, and plan.
Pretty much what Doomsday said.
Tebow has his flaws but he's built like a tank, 99% of QBs wouldn't survive running that offense for an entire game.
Thing is Pitt went in with the additude of stopping the run having LB and safety playing close. Denver countered it with less than high precentage passing by getting the ball down the field. his completion precentage was not great but then when you throw a lot of deep passes it is not going to be as high. One other thing Tebow had several balls that were dropped and he did not throw any picks.
You're not going to find many QBs who are built like Tebow to take the beating game in and game out that your QB would have to take in that kind of offense.
Trying this in a large part across the league would be a complete disaster.
True, Tebow is more of the exception to the rule clearly not the rule. I know damn well I don't want Romo doing it. :laugh2:
Denver has destroyed the notion you need a good QB to win.
ugly, but effective
It is not popular but the old school approach can still win games . The 49ers is a better example than Denver . As much as I despise the 49ers , I really like the team that they have put together .
I think what we'll see in about 5 years is that teams will be so geared to stop the Green Bay's, New England's, etc on defense and other teams will try to copy their 'spread 'em out and throw' schemes that it will leave a gaping hole for a team that will utilize more of a standard formations (21 personnel or 11 personnel under center) and utilize some creative ways to run block and throw off play action. I think some coach will figure out that there is a flaw to having all of these players on defense play from a 2-point stance and that you can run the ball at will if you can figure out new ways to run block. That and you'll save your QB from taking a beating and keep your defense fresh.
I think part of the problem is that coaches start to think that if they are down by a touchdown against a team like Green Bay that they have to start throwing like crazy in order to keep up with Green Bay's high powered offense. But in reality they are just playing into Green Bay's hands. It's almost akin to a basketball team thinking that they need to run a fast paced offense to stick with some powerhouse team that is great at running the fast break. More often than not, you'll get ran off the court.
Strangely, football coaches don't understand that.
Furthermore, the history of the game shows that defensive players are more likely to get injured than offensive players. So a HC smart enough to balance out the offense will not only keep his defense fresh, but keep them from getting injured. And like I said, his QB will also have less opportunities of getting injured as well.
It may not produce blowout wins and record breaking offensive performances, but it might wind up being the easiest way for a team to just win ball games. And I think Jim Harbaugh may have started to figure this out already.
Is that guy serious?
"Here's why Tim Tebow sucks"......and he shows a play where he wins the game.
Tebow has started 12 games for the Broncos. In the past 11 games, the team that was more effective at passing the ball won the game. The only time that wasn't true was Tebow's first start, when neither quarterback was very effective and Denver won in overtime.
Tebow hasn't always looked great throwing the ball, but he has averaged 13.7 yards per completion and rarely throws interceptions.
This just reiterates that it doesn't matter how often you throw the ball -- if you can throw it more effectively than your opponent, you'll almost always win. If not, you'll almost always lose.
That old "retread" John Fox just won himself a playoff game by the way.
Then why don't the Cowboys win more games?
Maybe so but it also shows by being able to run the ball it forced Pitt to play guys up in the line of scrimmage even safeties to stop it leaving the oppertunity for the big plays. I think running and passing can go hand in hand. If Denver can't run then Pitt is not going to cheat up on the line as they did.
The Broncos proved that the AFC is a weak conference.
The trick to winning with a balanced attack is having an OL that can run AND pass block effectively.