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Dog shot in CA

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  1. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    Has anyone seen the video of the dog shot from officers in California? I can't find a safe one to post. I am extremely pissed right now, just watched it. It is a very graphic video at the end. If I wasn't afraid of going to prison, I would drive to Hawthorne and beat the crap out of the cop and maybe the dog owner too, it was his fault he got killed. He was protecting his owner and paid his life for it :(
  2. RoyTheHammer

    RoyTheHammer Well-Known Member

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    Haven't seen it or heard about it.. but it sounds ridiculous. Post if you find an article about it.. because im not sure i would want to see a video of that.
  3. bigdnlaca

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    I saw the video on Worldstarhiphop.com and they also posted a video of the same man doing some interview after the shooting.

    The dog wasn't a threat until the officer pointed the gun at the dog.
  4. dez_for_prez

    dez_for_prez Active Member

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    Wow, just watched the video. That's super sad seeing the dog flop in pain like that.
  5. Wheeltax

    Wheeltax Well-Known Member

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    No way I can watch that video.

    Ugh.
  6. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    Because it was a knee-jerk reaction and in no way did they try to calm the dog down first. Hmm...maybe let the owner try to get him? Maybe use pepper spray? That dog was not that much of a serious life-threat to justify pumping rounds into him like he did. One shot to the back end could have stopped him, but instead he used him like a firing range target.
  7. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    A dog attack is pretty much going to end in a knee jerk reaction. It's sad, but I don't expet anybody to try and reason with an animal or calculate all possible propositions in a split second. We can watch from out of the loop, but in the moment, we have no idea how we would react.
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  8. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    No way in hell I can actually watch it... can someone give me a run down of what happens? What kind of dog was it?

    edit: nvm, I just found the story on fox news
  9. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    Sad stuff, but the officer probably did the right thing to protect himself. That dog looks to be a good 90-110 lbs, if not more and could have done some serious damage. He clearly tries to gain control of the dog, albeit a brief attempt, but had to protect himself in the heat of the moment. Don't blame him for that. I blame the owner for being a dirt bag.
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  10. Denim Chicken

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    How bout if the cops left the guy alone in the first place. All he was doing was filming the police officers.
  11. da_whiz_kid

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    The big thing is the cops apprehending the guy when all he was doing was filming. No, resisting he offered himself peacefully. They "rough" him up, not violently. but were really handsy for no reason. The dog jumps out and looks to protect his owner at first glance, but probably could have been calmed down had they either A) just let the man put the dog in the car or B) used a non-lethal weapon. After the first shot, the dog was already injured but he was shot three more times. Really hard to watch and I got choked up watching it flop around. Looked like a younger Rot, but the whole situation could have been avoided had the man rolled his windows up some, or the officers not appear as a threat to the owner as OBVIOUSLY the window was rolled down.
    Either way, the guy did nothing wrong to be placed in handcuffs, and he did not fight it either.
  12. Ntegrase96

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    His owner seemed to be instigating it. Now I haven't actually watched the entire video, I seriously can't bring myself to do it just out of sheer curiosity, but as someone that has watched the video put it....

    "This guy drove up to the scene of the apprehension of an ARMED ROBBERY suspect, blasting his music, slow-rolling the cops. The cops say something over the PA system at least twice and he ignores it and instead, parks his car on the corner with the music still blasting loudly and gets out to purposely antagonize the cops and ignore their orders to turn off the music."

    The guy also had run-ins with the police department before and has 6 complaints against them. He antagonized the officers if you ask me, then failed to secure his dog.

    I feel for the guy for losing his dog, but I want to smack the living crap out of him for his irresponsible behavior that resulted in his dog's death.
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  13. Denim Chicken

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    Yeah, I haven't watched it either (I don't want to see the dog die), but read that he was arrested for videotaping the crime scene (which is ridiculous).
  14. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I understand.

    I'm a big dog person and have a soft spot for them so I'm not just going to watch a video of one dying to appease my curiosity. But reading the news article kind of illustrates the owner's lack of innocence.

    I mean, you don't have to look much further than the fact that others were filming the event from their phones as well. If the owner, Leon Rosby, didn't want the police officers' attention he wouldn't have been singled out and his dog, Max, would still be alive and well.
  15. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    I read about this, but will not watch the vid. But, why can't the cop just taze the dog or pepper spray the dog first?
  16. Ntegrase96

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    Not the first instinct. Police officers are human too. Also, I'm not so sure pepper spray would actually deter a dog like that. When some dogs get locked in it's very tough to stop them-- have you ever heard of the catch dog's job in boar hunting? They can sustain pretty bad injuries but overall can stay locked onto their target. Not that you would use a rottweiler as a catch dog, nonetheless its a good illustration of how a dog can get 'dialed in' and become unflappable, virtually unstoppable.
  17. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    That is very true, what you say. But, their are some products that Mailmen carry that deters dog attacks and is very effective. Also, google about dogs and pepper spray and you will see that it can be very effective.
  18. sunbum

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    My thought is the dog owner was provoking the police and the situation. It's hard to tell from the video but from what I've read, the loud music from his car and his actions interfered from the police's ability to complete their assignment. It looks like he was warned, finally he retreated but maybe too late. The dog was an unfortunate victim of circumstance where it acted in its nature but it was more than the police, in this situation, felt was reasonable to let continue.
  19. Sarge

    Sarge Red, White and Brew... Staff Member

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    PLEASE DO NOT POST THE VIDEO OF THE DOG BEING SHOT - THANKS FOLKS...
  20. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    In theory, this is true. But, after watching the video and reading about eyewitness accounts, this dog was not "locked in". He was not going for the jugular or trying to tear his head off. He was simply upset that his owner had aggression towards him and the dog did not like that.

    Like I said earlier, use pepper spray, let the owner corral him or to an extreme, one bullet to the hind quarters. This was not a situation that called for multiple shots IMO. The cop probably panicked but officers do undergo training for these circumstances. The owner was at fault too.
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