Don Banks combine column CNNSI - Belichick talking evaluating safetys (bu bye Roy)

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  1. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    - In assessing this year's crop of defensive backs, Belichick was fairly expansive about the changing role of the safety position in the NFL.

    "The safety position is becoming more and more a corner position in the NFL,'' Belichick said. "There was a time when some of the safeties, particularly the strong safeties, fit more almost like linebackers than they did as defensive backs. That's changed gradually, but now to the point where the defensive backs a lot of times have to cover either wide receivers or tight ends who are very, very good in the passing game. So the demands of that position have changed and we have to change the evaluation of them.

    Nobody can argue Belichick knows defense. Sounds like unless Roy W can play LB, he has outlived his usefulness here. The guy cant cover a man hole cover.
  2. JonJon

    JonJon Injured Reserve

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    I think he still has a part-time role as a runner stopper in short yardage situations. Other than that, he needs to be on the bench.
  3. Canadian BoyzFan

    Canadian BoyzFan Well-Known Member

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    Well part time players should not make what Roy makes. It's time to go or re-do your contract if you want to stay.
  4. SLATEmosphere

    SLATEmosphere Benched

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    :laugh2: Would he want to do that?
  5. 5Countem5

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    Whats the cap hit if he is cut or traded?

    Anyone know?
  6. SLATEmosphere

    SLATEmosphere Benched

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    We save 2.2 million if he's cut or traded.I think it's saving 10 million over the next two years or something crazy like that if he's cut this year.
  7. 5Countem5

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    Something's gotta give. He can't make that kind of money for what he contributes.
  8. Matt

    Matt Member

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    LOL, I love how every offseason there is always a question about Roy's cap hit.
  9. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    I've been saying it for 3 years, back when everyone was blaming the scheme.

    And NFL safety these days has to cover. It doesn't matter if he's free or strong. It's a fact that you can't scheme/wish/hope/pray away. The game is too spread out now and there's too many athletic pass catching TE's. NFL offensive coordinators are paid a lot of money to figure out ways to get safeties like Roy Williams in mismatches. There's nowhere to hide.
  10. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    If he stays, his contract needs redone. Right now he is stealing Jerry money.
  11. newlander

    newlander Well-Known Member

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    see ya Roy.
  12. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    Frankly I see a time when you have 3 CBs starting and only 1 Safety.
  13. ddh33

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    You know, it's kind of strange that college football has been a little ahead of the NFL lately.

    Colleges were doing a lot of this several years ago, including when Roy Williams was playing a hybrid position at OU.

    More recently, colleges are going almost exclusively to spread offenses, and we are gradually seeing more and more of that in the NFL too.

    But I think Roy can still play. I think his strengths can still be used on a football team. I wonder what he would do as a LB, but even if he stays at S, I think he can still have a role.

    So I hope that Roy does get to stick around, and I hope that the coaches can find a way to use him.
  14. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    how do you keep a guy around who cant cover or tackle? Maybe I should get on Irvins reality show cuz I cant cover or tackle either, maybe there is is a roster spot for me.
  15. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    If he still lit people up it would be a different story but he doesnt even do that.
  16. SLATEmosphere

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    The NFL constantly evolves. Those hard hitting safetys are becoming more and more obsolete due to different schemes and packages. There's only a few rare exeptions that come along who can do both. Polamalu, Bob Sanders and Sean Taylor.
  17. ThreeSportStar80

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    Roy Williams isn't getting paid like a part time player... They need to cut him and move on. Dallas needs a leader and a playmaker at the safety position.
  18. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    If he's traded then we save all the contract money. This would be a very good thing but who's going to take him?

    We caught some heat for that. The game has changed. We play the nickel, dime and other special packages a great deal of the time. The rule changes and the natural evolution of players gives makes passing much more effective.
  19. Clove

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    He would have a place on my roster if he would destroy every WR within 10 yards of him, but since his one act is gone, he should follow.
  20. Cowboyz88

    Cowboyz88 Well-Known Member

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    Isn't there a myth list somewhere that disputes this bunk?

    I kid, I kid.

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