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Draft Order Updated

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Hostile, Nov 23, 2004.

  1. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    1. San Francisco 49ers, 1-9, .500
    2. Miami Dolphins, 1-9, .590

    3. Washington Redskins, 3-7, .490
    4. Carolina Panthers, 3-7, .540
    5. Dallas Cowboys, 3-7, .560 * subject to coin flip
    6. Oakland Raiders, 3-7, .560 * subject to coin flip
    7. Kansas City Chiefs, 3-7, .590
    8. Cleveland Browns, 3-7, .630

    9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 4-6, .440
    10. Arizona Cardinals, 4-6, .460 * subject to coin flip
    11. New Orleans Saints, 4-6, .460 * subject to coin flip
    12. Chicago Bears, 4-6, .490
    13. Tennessee Titans, 4-6, .510
    14. Cincinnati Bengals, 4-6, .530 * subject to coin flip
    15. Houston Texans, 4-6, .530 * subject to coin flip
    16. Detroit Lions, 4-6, .540
    17. Buffalo Bills, 4-6, .580 (Cowboys own selection)

    18. St. Louis Rams, 5-5, .470
    19. New York Giants, 5-5, .500 (Chargers own selection)

    20. Seattle Seahawks, 6-4, .370
    21. Green Bay Packers, 6-4, .430
    22. Minnesota Vikings, 6-4, .500
    23. Jacksonville Jaguars, 6-4, .530

    24. New York Jets, 7-3, .410
    25. Denver Broncos, 7-3, .460
    26. Baltimore Ravens, 7-3, .480
    27. San Diego Chargers, 7-3, .490
    28. Indianapolis Colts, 7-3, .510

    29. Atlanta Falcons, 8-2, .430

    30. Pittsburgh Steelers, 9-1, .460
    31. Philadelphia Eagles, 9-1, .470
    32. New England Patriots, 9-1, .500

    Dallas' remaining games...

    vs. Bears
    @ Seahawks
    vs. Saints
    @ Eagles
    vs. Redskins
    @ Giants

    Buffalo's remaining games...

    @ Seahawks
    @ Dolphins
    vs. Browns
    @ Bengals
    @ 49ers
    vs. Steelers
  2. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    You know....of course I would want us to go into the draft with two high picks (no not that I want the team to lose more games but talking about the draft).

    However a mid round pick is not that bad.

    There are some D-Line players I would feel more comfortable taking in the mid rounds that I would not be ok with taking in the top 10.

    Of course I guess one could argue if we liked a guy and felt it was to high to take him we could trade down and get extra picks while still taking him.

    But at this time...I just do not think there is a DT or DE that I think rates high enough to take in a top ten.

    Now I am sure there will be one or more that is taken that high, as it is a weak top end draft class for those positions ....but still at this time none of them strike me as worthy top 10 guys.

    Ok...I am done rambling.
  3. calicowboy54

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    i think we will go 6-10 or 5-11 and buffalo will go 10-6 or 9-7 or 8-8 either way we still got a top 10 pick and a top 25 pick.
  4. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    Just for giggles, let's suppose our pick stays that high. If San Diego offered their two 1st rounders for that high pick, would you take it and have three middle of the round 1st rounders?

    I would have to seriously consider it. There are some good LBs and DL in this draft.
  5. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    So you think Buffalo is going to finsih 6-0, 5-1, or 4-2?

    I definitely don't see 6-0 with the Steelers on the schedule for them.

    I think 3-3 or 2-4 is far more likely.
  6. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    It would be hard but I would have to consider it.

    There are only a few players IMO that are worthy of our high first round pick at this time.

    And only two of them on Defense IMO...A.Rolle and D.Johnson.

    If we want to address the D-Line then it would be better to get those middle round picks but once again it depends on how the draft shapes up I guess.
  7. calicowboy54

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    yes or i would not have posted. they are all winable games for buffalo and the are starting to come together on the O and there D is alot better than ours
  8. da_boyz_mk

    da_boyz_mk How 'Bout Dem Cowboys

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  9. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    That one is just a bit off. Looking just at Dallas I can tell you why.

    Each team has played 10 games. That means with 10 opponents they have played 100 games. At 100 games played for all of their opponents it is impossible for Dallas to have a .544 rating. It is impossible for any team to have a % that doesn't end in 0 after this week in the schedule. The number of wins by the opponents divided by the games played by the opponents equals the winning percentage. Most of those percentages are impossible given where we are in the schedule.

    For example, Dallas...

    Vikings, 6-4
    Browns, 3-7
    Redskins, 3-7
    Giants, 5-5
    Steelers, 9-1
    Packers, 6-4
    Lions, 4-6
    Bengals, 4-6
    Eagles, 9-1
    Ravens, 7-3

    That's 56 wins divided by 100 games played for a .560 %.

    I hope that explains it.
  10. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    4 of their last 6 are on the road. While I agree, every game is winnable, I just don't see that kind of success by a 4-6 team. 3-3 would shock me.
  11. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    I think I would do it. If that meant we don't get Derrick Johnson or Antrel Rolle with that top pick but ended up with an Ahmed Brooks and a Marlin Jackson with the pick that would have got one of them then I think we come out ahead because the other pick, let's say for giggles Mathias Kiwanuka, remains static.

    3 Potential immediate contributors is better than 2.

    I'm not saying this will be offered. Just speculating.
  12. InmanRoshi

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    Especially from a team that's 0-4 away from home this year, including a loss to the Raiders.

    This hasn't proven to be a team that travels well, but they are very tough at home.
  13. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    Very valid point. Like I said, 3-3 would really surprise me. I think 2-4 is more likely. I figure 6-10 for them at best.

    St. Louis really let me down.
  14. zagnut

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    I have a question I honestly could not find the answer to. In figuring strength of schedule, do you include or omit the win or loss in the opponent's schedule that refers to the team whose SoS is being determined?

    If it is included, your SoS numbers are correct. If it is omitted, Great Blue North's numbers are correct. In your example above, for instance, Minnesota would have 5 wins instead of 6 because one of the wins is against Dallas - if omitting wins or losses against yourself.

    Also, are you already figuring the conference/division tie-breaker before the coin flip?

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