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Draft value chart

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by blindzebra, Jan 5, 2005.

  1. blindzebra

    blindzebra Well-Known Member

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  2. Cbz40

    Cbz40 The Grand Poobah

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    Thanks BZ.........good info
  3. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Great idea to sticky this. Will be used a bunch in the coming months. Thanks
  4. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    One thing to remember when looking at charts such as that one (there are several versions, some more accurate than others) is that the actual value of a draft pick is whatever the two teams involved decide it is. If one team really wants to trade up or down, it's often willing to overpay or to receive less than what the chart might say is appropriate. Also, more than half of all draft trades are simple two-for-one trades, and only about 10 percent involve more than one pick for each team. So teams don't usually nit-pick over a few "points" here and there, trying to balance out the equation. As long as the values are close and both teams get the picks to suit their purposes, that's usually good enough.


    For further reference, here are all of the draft trades since 1996, and almost all of them from 1992-1995 --

    1992 DRAFT

    4 = 6, 28
    17, 120 = 19, 104
    19, 37, 104 = 13, 71
    20 = 37, 64, 108
    36, 121 = 52, 78, 163, 222, 329
    40 = 47, 74
    47, 74 = 56, 58
    56 = 82, 109, 250


    1993 DRAFT

    11 = 14, 83
    13 = 19, 75
    18 = 20, 116
    20 = 26, 81
    29, 112 = 46, 54, 94, 213
    33 = 36, 120
    41 = 58, 81
    41, 82, 110, 138 = 48, next 1st
    44 = 49, 107
    64 = 82, 104
    65 = 73, 127
    72 = 81, 152
    92 = 100, 156
    99 = 110, 138
    112 = 119, 156


    1994 DRAFT

    5 = 7, 83
    7 = 15, 56, 100
    12 = 13, 144
    16 = 20, 89
    23, 217 = 28, 62
    29 = 40, next 2nd
    37 = 40, 118
    52 = 55, 125
    53 = 84, 149, 175, 190
    65 = 89, 115, 121
    80 = 94, 152
    107 = 121, 135
    120 = 126, 169


    1995 DRAFT

    1 = 5, 36
    7, 72 = 12, 43, 63
    10 = 30, 94, 119, next 1st
    19 = 31, 97, 134, next 4th
    22, 188 = 32, 63, 173
    28 = 41, 63
    29 = 34, 98, 100
    33 = 40, 71
    41 = 46, 110
    51 = next 1st
    70 = 82, 115
    84 = 90, 160
    111 = 121, 196
    112 = next 3rd


    1996 DRAFT

    9 = 17, 48, 109
    13 = 18, 83, 201
    17 = 21, 91
    30 = 37, 67
    41 = next 1st
    49 = 60, 99
    55 = 65, 100, 213
    57 = 76, 124, 149
    60, 99 = 79, 98, 134, 150
    76 = 86, 119, 195
    97 = 112, 137
    98, next 7th = 113, 125
    99 = 110, 146
    111 = 122, 159, 235
    135 = 161, 162
    157 = next 4th
    192 = next 5th


    1997 DRAFT

    1 = 6, 67, 102, 207
    3, 63 = 11, 41, 70, 100
    6 = 8, 104
    6 = 12, 63
    13, 110 = 18, 91, 116, 181
    22 = 25, 155, next 3rd
    38 = 40, 173
    54 = 65, 101
    55 = 57, 190, 227
    67 = 88, 191, 229, next 6th
    71 = 84, 188
    77 = 86, 156
    107 = 116, 165
    112 = 121, 170, 173
    123 = 157, 166, 203
    138 = 215, next 4th
    140 = 180, 222
    146, 218 = next 3rd
    193 = 213


    1998 DRAFT

    19 = 29, 60
    23 = 34, 59
    41 = 56, 87, 149
    43 = 1st in two years (2000)
    45 = 53, 114
    59 = 1st in two years (2000)
    60 = 79, 143, 172
    65 = 67, 195
    70 = 85, 116
    93 = 103, 124, 154
    102 = 112, 142
    104 = next 3rd
    109 = 113, 191
    137 = 199, 203, 215
    138 = 162, 197
    152 = 156, next 6th
    200 = next 6th
    215 = next 6th


    1999 DRAFT

    5 = 12, 71, 107, 144, 179, 218, next 1st, next 3rd
    7 = 12, 71, 106, 143, next 3rd
    17 = 20, 82, 191
    20 = 22, 140
    24 = 27, 134
    27 = 39, 70, 142
    37 = 40, 144
    40, 102 = 47, 78, 111
    42 = next 1st
    43 = 54, 84, next 6th
    44 = 59, 73, 163
    46 = 52, 117
    70 = 72, 232
    96 = 99, 171
    137 = next 4th
    146, 163 = next 3rd
    165 = 179, 218
    170 = 187, 191
    174 = 184, 207
    182 = 195, 233
    207 = 221, 253


    2000 DRAFT

    3 = 12, 24, 119, 154
    10 = 15, 45
    12 = 16, 48
    51 = 57, 120
    61 = 68, 135
    86 = 119, 154
    98 = 108, 132
    111 = next 3rd
    104 = 125, 150, 225
    138 = 158, 195
    150 = 170, 209
    154 = 175, 231
    209, 225 = 223, 232, 254
    212 = next 6th
    231 = next 6th
    238 = next 6th


    2001 DRAFT

    7, 191 = 9, 82, 222
    14 = 21, 51
    22 = 30, 91, 193
    37 = 52, 81
    39 = 50, 112
    48 = 50, 173
    51 = 58, 110
    52 = 56, 122
    53 = 70, 81
    61 = 78, 114
    69 = 86, 119
    88, 187 = next 2nd
    96 = 112, 139
    145 = 154, 186
    149 = 180, 216
    170 = next 5th
    215, 219, 226 = next 4th


    2002 DRAFT

    6 = 8, 75, next 6th
    14 = 15, 110
    18 = 21, 89
    17 = 18, 158
    20, 156 = 28, 60
    21 = 32, 96, 234
    52, 96 = 56, 87
    61 = 69, 102
    63, 129 = 72, 104, 140
    67 = 73, 145
    79 = 89, 118
    96 = 112, 155
    116 = next 3rd
    117 = 131, 144
    122 = 147, 189
    168 = 237, next 5th


    2003 DRAFT

    4 = 13, 22, 116
    6, 37, 102 = 17, 18, 54
    13 = 14, 193
    15 = 30, 62
    16 = 27, 92, 200
    19 = 41, next 1st
    36, 117 = 41, 75
    45 = 50, 120
    78 = next 2nd
    79 = 94, 127
    82 = 108, 120, 227
    83, 262 = next 2nd
    120 = 128, 157
    138 = next 4th
    143 = 176, 193, 218
    147 = 165, 203
    150, 200 = 153, 189
    154, 225 = 164, 201, 243
    166 = 185, 244
    181 = 226, 247
    245 = next 6th


    2004 DRAFT

    1 = 4, 65, next 1st, next 5th
    6 = 7, 37
    16 = 28, 58
    19 = 20, 119
    22 = 43, 144, next 1st
    24 = 26, 123
    27, 159 = 40, 71, 103, 138
    28 = 31, 127
    29, 90 = 38, 69, 125
    30 = 36, 105, next5th
    38 = 44, 107
    48 = 50, 151
    55 = 70, 102
    59, 161 = 68, 141, 173
    72 = 86, 118
    81, 151 = 139, next 2nd
    82 = 88, 155
    87 = 102, 153
    104 = 112, 147
    153 = 160, 222
    156 = 182, 206
    159 = 175, 210
    174 = 186, 219
    179 = 188, 226
    182 = 205, 223


    Looking at only the two-for-one trades also gives you a good idea of what picks can be had or are needed for trading from one spot to another --

    1 = 5, 36
    4 = 6, 28
    5 = 7, 83
    6 = 7, 37
    6 = 8, 104
    6 = 12, 63
    10 = 15, 45
    11 = 14, 83
    12 = 13, 144
    12 = 16, 48
    13 = 14, 193
    13 = 19, 75
    14 = 15, 110
    14 = 21, 51
    15 = 30, 62
    16 = 20, 89
    16 = 28, 58
    17 = 18, 158
    17 = 21, 91
    18 = 20, 116
    18 = 21, 89
    19 = 20, 119
    19 = 29, 60
    20 = 22, 140
    20 = 26, 81
    23 = 34, 59
    24 = 26, 123
    24 = 27, 134
    28 = 31, 127
    28 = 41, 63
    30 = 37, 67
    33 = 36, 120
    33 = 40, 71
    37 = 40, 118
    37 = 40, 144
    37 = 52, 81
    38 = 40, 173
    38 = 44, 107
    39 = 50, 112
    40 = 47, 74
    41 = 46, 110
    41 = 58, 81
    44 = 49, 107
    45 = 50, 120
    45 = 53, 114
    46 = 52, 117
    48 = 50, 151
    48 = 50, 173
    49 = 60, 99
    51 = 57, 120
    51 = 58, 110
    52 = 55, 125
    52 = 56, 122
    53 = 70, 81
    54 = 65, 101
    55 = 70, 102
    61 = 68, 135
    61 = 69, 102
    61 = 78, 114
    64 = 82, 104
    65 = 67, 195
    65 = 73, 127
    67 = 73, 145
    69 = 86, 119
    70 = 72, 232
    70 = 82, 115
    70 = 85, 116
    71 = 84, 188
    72 = 81, 152
    72 = 86, 118
    77 = 86, 156
    79 = 89, 118
    79 = 94, 127
    80 = 94, 152
    82 = 88, 155
    84 = 90, 160
    86 = 119, 154
    87 = 102, 153
    92 = 100, 156
    96 = 99, 171
    96 = 112, 139
    96 = 112, 155
    97 = 112, 137
    98 = 108, 132
    99 = 110, 138
    99 = 110, 146
    102 = 112, 142
    104 = 112, 147
    107 = 116, 165
    107 = 121, 135
    109 = 113, 191
    111 = 121, 196
    112 = 119, 156
    117 = 131, 144
    120 = 126, 169
    120 = 128, 157
    122 = 147, 189
    135 = 161, 162
    138 = 158, 195
    138 = 162, 197
    140 = 180, 222
    145 = 154, 186
    147 = 165, 203
    149 = 180, 216
    150 = 170, 209
    153 = 160, 222
    154 = 175, 231
    156 = 182, 206
    159 = 175, 210
    165 = 179, 218
    166 = 185, 244
    170 = 187, 191
    174 = 184, 207
    174 = 186, 219
    179 = 188, 226
    181 = 226, 247
    182 = 195, 233
    182 = 205, 223
    207 = 221, 253
  5. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

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    perfect recent example of Adam's reply...Cleveland last yr giving up a 2nd rd pick to move one spot...they gave up 7 and 37 for 6...7+37= 2140 pts, 6=1700 pts...it was an awful trade, by the value chart they should have been able to do this deal for a 1st and 4th..but they were so enamored with Winslow they did the deal anyway.

    David
  6. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    There is a lot of dispartity in what compensation was given to trade up/down. I guess that it depends on how bad you want to move up/down and whether there is competition to move up/down. It is really surprising how much/little was given to move in some cases.
  7. lkelly

    lkelly Well-Known Member

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    Was going to post the same thing. That was a complete robbery. And you can easily argue that the 7th pick (Roy Williams) is a much better player than the 6th pick (Winslow). There certainly wasn't a comparison in their rookie years.

    There's no wonder that Cleveland is looking to completely start over from the top down.
  8. Avery

    Avery The Dog that Saved Charleston

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    5 = 12, 71, 107, 144, 179, 218, next 1st, next 3rd

    Ditka was an idiot. A team would be foolish not to do this trade.
  9. DLK150

    DLK150 The Quiet Man

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    Here's one you can save to your computer, or just reference within the thread.

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  10. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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  11. ravidubey

    ravidubey Active Member

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    Thanks for posting, Adam. Maybe our luck began to change in 2004...!
  12. jksmith269

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