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Drafting WR in the first round is a bad idea.

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by FuzzyLumpkins, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    I don't know about Evans. He destroys single coverage from what I saw but he is not going to be able to outrun NFL corners like he was doing to those in the SEC. He will be a size mismatch and he will be able to go for jumpballs as is the rage these days offensively.

    Linehan is also an innovator in the recent exploitation of receivers of extraordinary size as he coordinated Calvin Johnson's best two seasons to date. It's hard for me to watch Manziel and Evans and see a bit of what Romo and Laurent Robinson used to do. Romo has been too banged up to do much of that lately though.

    That still doesn't overcome the fact that Evans only played two years and has a route tree like Dez had coming out. As it is right now it will be very easy to scheme defensively around his limited skillset. He is incredibly raw.

    From a BPA regardless of position or scheme standpoint I don't have Evans in the top 10:

    Manziel
    Bortles
    Bridgewater
    Watkins
    Clowney
    Mack
    Barr
    Robinson
    Matthews
    Lewan

    he is in that next group

    Donald
    Ebron
    Evans
    Martin
    Jernigan
    Gilbert
    Dennard
    Clinton-Dix
    Beckham
    Mosley
    Ealy

    People acting like it is going to take a miracle for Evans to be available at 16 are fooling themselves.
  2. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    If Sammy Watkins or Mike Evans are there at 16 (highly doubtful) they need to draft them as BPA. Dez gets nicked up a lot and this offense would be considerably easier to defend without him.
  3. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

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    Mike Evans will have a better career than Sammy Watkins.
  4. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Not totally opposed to a WR at 16 I just don't think it's very likely. If by chance either of those big name WR is available, my bet is we trade down.
  5. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Still not quite seeing what would stop Evans from being a truly top tier NFL WR. He's huge, he's fast enough, he has a very good vertical, he has good ball skills to take the ball away from people, he's very competitive, and he was extremely productive. The speed is the only concern with him, but he ran a 4.53. What did Dez run?

    Not really buying Fuzzy's negatives on him. He played with a limited route tree? That's about 80% of college WRs now. He'll face better competition in the pros? That's 100% of college WRs.

    I don't want to take a WR in the first, but if he's there and the best player on the board I couldn't complain. But I don't think we have to worry about it at 16, because he'll be gone before we have a chance.
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  6. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I just see Evans as a fit problem for the Cowboys, not that he is a bad player, can't run routes, etc. I just have no faith that we could feature him properly or enough to justify the investment.
  7. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    If Dallas were to draft an offensive player in rd 1 then I would much rather see a top OL than a WR. I would like to see Dallas add a WR later in the draft but I would much rather see the rebuilding of the DL and continuation of building the OL those 2 areas will have a greater impact than any 1 WR.
  8. morasp

    morasp Well-Known Member

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    I've got to agree with you and I bet the Cowboys do too. If our first round pick isn't defense I will be very surprised.
  9. reddyuta

    reddyuta Well-Known Member

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    I am opposed to it too because both Evans and Watkins will be gone by 16.
  10. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    This team needs to go BPA at all times. They are not a player or two away from being a contender. I don't think they can afford to pass up a top tier player at any position if the player falls to them. I would rather see a great defensive prospect fall to them, but all positions should be considered if the value and talent is there.
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  11. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Stackin and Processin, Well

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    We won't have to worry about that, Watkins probably won't get out the top 5 and Evans will be gone before we pick as well.
  12. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    Picking Mike Evans would be sweet.
  13. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    and I thought Jerry was the only one captivated by shinny toys? lol
  14. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    It is not the shinny toys for me. I want the best player on the draft board. I don't care what position .
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  15. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Evans is good and there are many other very good players who would also fit major needs for this team. There is only 1 ball, Dez is going to get his, we have a fine WR in Williams what Dallas does not have is a foundation to be able to use these weapons. Yes he is a shinny toy another WR that means little if you are not getting it done up front.
  16. bbailey423

    bbailey423 Well-Known Member

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    This is the thing people often do not understand...how certain guys open things up for the rest of their teamates. Which is WHY I wanted Sproles when New Orleans got him a couple of years ago...and why I wanted DeSean Jackson after I saw the numbers on his deal. Think about it...DeSean got LESS guaranteed money than Percy Harvin...and the Seahwaks gave up multiple picks for Percy Harvin. I think we need a burner that can allow all of our bigger physical pass catching options a little more room to operate. We have not had that since TO. Which ironically...was the last time our offense was dominant. Which also was the last time we were the best team in the NFC. 2007.
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  17. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    Well said, Evans would make the Cowboys a better team, hands down.
  18. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    If I was going WR then Watkins bring 4.37 speed as opposed to Evans running a 4.53 we have that already. Dallas has an excellent 1 WR, we picked up another very good WR last year. Unless we want to be Det and select WR after WR I don't see the point of getting what we have.
  19. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Everyone keeps talking BPA but I'm not sold strictly on BPA.

    Outside of top 10 I don't think there's much that separates the BPA from the runner up, if anything at all.

    BPA also sounds good and would ideally give you a well stocked team but it's just as likely you'll have a few well stocked positions and an equal number of depleted position.

    Also, I don't get impressed with a well-stocked position that leaves 1-2 BPA picks on the bench.

    If BPA is also LLC (least likely to contribute), what's the point? You might as well be taking BPA because you anticipate the difference in careers is so great that one player cannot be passed on.

    I don't think scouting, grading and projecting is so accurate that you would be confident that the career differences even exist.

    Dallas has plenty of weak spots. If one of those isn't BPA when they are on the clock, gotta be #2 BPA and will be a lot more likely to contribute and improve the team.
  20. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I think you are better off looking at BPA who also fills need. I'm sure Evans will be a good player but I also think at 16 there will be guys grading out just as good at other position some of those position that will be of great need for Dallas.

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