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Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by Maxmadden, Nov 17, 2005.

  1. Maxmadden

    Maxmadden Active Member

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    I'm sure this has been discussed here before. Does anyone know if it's called a

    A)Shovel Pass
    B)Shuttle Pass
    C)Shuffle Pass

    I've heard it called all three but I was discussing it the other night with my brother during the game.

    Anyone know the correct term and it's origination?
  2. SkinsandTerps

    SkinsandTerps Redskins Forever

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    I have heard A and C but never B.

    I believe C is the correct term.
  3. sporadic

    sporadic New Member

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    It is most definately a shuttle pass.
  4. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    It's "Shovel Pass" to my knowledge, but I don't know the origins...
  5. silver

    silver Well-Known Member

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    I heard of the Savoy Truffle Pass
  6. sporadic

    sporadic New Member

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    My bad...I just called my dad on this one (he was a football coach for 17 years). He said It is called a SHUFFLE pass.
  7. SkinsandTerps

    SkinsandTerps Redskins Forever

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    Doesnt really matter much.

    Its still ultimately a screen pass.
  8. NicholasD

    NicholasD New Member

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    Saw an NFL Films thing on this once, and I'm pretty sure a majority of coaches, players, and Paul Tagliabue himself called it a shovel pass.
  9. SA_Gunslinger

    SA_Gunslinger Official CZ Ea-girls hater

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    i believe the answer is A.
  10. Armbender

    Armbender Member

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    a shovel pass
  11. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    You are correct.

    They actually went to many coaches and had different answers but the majority was the shovel and yes Tags said so as well.

    Interesting thing in that story was that both the shovel and shuffle pass have been terms that have been used in official NFL stats pages.

    The story goes however that it was a shovel pass because it was an underhand type pass similar to someone using a coal shovel.
  12. Funxva

    Funxva Inventor of the Whizzinator

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    Shovel pass (Underhanded pass)
  13. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    You say tomato... I say tomato...
  14. SkinsandTerps

    SkinsandTerps Redskins Forever

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    Exactly.


    Probably was originally Shuffle or Shovel and both fit and make sense, so either is acceptable. Phonetically they are similar, so at some point someone said the other and the story goes on from there.
  15. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    On Monday night, Drew Pearson said it was definitely a "shovel" pass... At least for coach Landry. ;)
  16. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    It's shovel.

    What I don't understand is the "scream pass"

    :lmao2:

    Sorry.
  17. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    Drew had one of those on the int Monday... ;)
  18. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    The original name is "forward lateral behind the line of scrimmage" but since it would result in a delay of game waiting for the call in the huddle someone said "take a shovel and bury that play." Hence the shovel play!
  19. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden New Member

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  20. lurkercowboy

    lurkercowboy Active Member

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    The name of the pass has been misinterpreted because people hear it orally and thus learn it phonetically instead of by the spelling.

    Like the "hook and lateral" play that is sometimes called "hook and ladder."

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