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E-Lie Throws Another League Leading INT - Now 11 More Than Romo

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WPBCowboysFan, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Nice post.

    No matter how nice you present it. No matter your denial of the proclaimed E-Lie lovers here. No matter what E-Lie contributed to his team's accomplishments. Its still the same goofball that often just throws the ball up for grabs. Its still the same goofball that has had some really good fortune that others havent had that are better. Its still the same ole dopey goofball.

    Its still E-Lie leading the league in INT's.
  2. Wayne02

    Wayne02 Well-Known Member

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    You are a sad little man, and your unwillingness to see just how absurd your arguments are is quite embarrassing.
  3. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Lots more stats records you could put about romo . Eli's resume is not even close if we are talking pure passing . Romo highest rated qb in 4th quarter .
    Lots of Eli's have team stats as his which is stupid . Romo also has the most 4 the quarter comebacks the last 3 years .
  4. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    So Eli is better than Tom Brady right because HE (Eli ) beat the pats by himself right ?

    We don't use the word giants beat the pats . No , we say Eli beat Brady or the pats because it's one vs 53 .

    So I can say dilfer beat the giants .

    Can I say Brady choked vs the panthers ? Or does he get a pass cause he has 3 rings from a decade ago ?
  5. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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    Bottom Line - If I was starting a team today and I had to pick Romo or Eli, I would pick Romo 10/10 times. Just because Eli has had a BETTER TEAM for the majority of his career, doesn't make him a better QB then Romo. Same argument regarding Roethlisberger, and Flacco.

    Also, Eli is not a HoF QB and it will be a disgrace to all the other HoF QB's if he's even considered. He's a slightly above average QB who has uped his play in the playoffs - with a solid team around him. Now it sounds like I'm talking about Mark Sanchez, heck Sanchez has even played better in the playoffs then Eli has. So I guess Sanchez > Eli ?
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  6. Wayne02

    Wayne02 Well-Known Member

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    Where are the facts to back up this assertion?
  7. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    I agree 100% you've got it .
  8. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career_playoffs.htm

    Sanchez has a 94.3 rating in the playoffs, 6th of all time. So according to some on this board, if he had won a ring in 09/10 he would be a HoF QB? No, not even close. Because it's not all about super bowls and most people understand there are 45 other players helping your team on game day, for better or worse.
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  9. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Go watch the game tape . If you haven't figured it out by now it's probably to late . Not everyone can see the game properly . Most just say well how many rings does he have etc etc ... It's the cheesy fans (who don't understand the game ) . Romo 96 career qb rating Eli 81 . I don't really think anyone would logically take Eli over romo is starting a new franchise . Romo brings more to the table in every way . Passing Stats wise romo is more productive in every single way .
  10. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Don't even bother bro , if they don't understand how foot works by now they never will . It's the ultimate team game but like our fans say Eli beat Brady twice .
  11. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    This is gonna be a fun thread to bump Sunday around 6:30.
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  12. dupree89

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    Whether fair or not, QBs and head coaches in the NFL are judged by Super Bowl rings. Its always been that way and everyone knows it. It isnt necessarily fair, but thats how it is. Fans can take a few of the rare times when an average or below QB won a ring like Dilfer and they can twist it any which way to support their argument. But overall, big picture, if the QB / head coach doesnt win a ring, it is a huge strike against them.
    Look at the numbers Marino put up in the 1980s. Unheard of numbers for that time period. He gets mentioned as a great QB but isnt in every conversation like he would be and should be if he won a ring.
    Peyton Manning and Elway were getting killed for years until they finally broke through. Now they are historic QBs. Dan Fouts is another guy. If he ever had won a ring, he would be getting mentioned with the best of the best. He put up unbelieveable numbers starting in the later 70s. When does he ever get a mention? Rarely because of no ring.
  13. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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  14. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Its a sport. You gotta watch the games. The eyes tell a lot.
  15. Wayne02

    Wayne02 Well-Known Member

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    I watched both of those Super Bowl runs by Eli and the Giants and that guy maybe turned the ball over twice throughout
    Yea I did watch it, so since you claimed to have watched it, could you tell me how many interceptions Eli Manning threw during both Super Bowl runs, and after you figure that out, could you tell me how many Touchdowns he threw during both of those Super Bowl runs?
  16. dragon_mikal

    dragon_mikal Darth Jones strikes again! Zone Supporter

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    Ok are there really Cowboys fans trying to dig defensive trenches around Eli freakin' Manning? A hated division foe's quarterback?

    I've never seen fans work so hard trying to defend an opposing team's player. No wonder we're laughed at by other fan bases. Go out of your way to throw OUR OWN TEAM's quarterback under the bus but holy crap DON'T SMACK TALK ELI MANNING!

    Want our own players to talk tough and show emotion but become quislings at the mere mention of HIM!

    This is a Dallas Cowboys message board. If you grovel at the feet of a divisional foe's player you will be mocked and you will deserve it. There are plenty of Giants message boards where you can talk up Eli Manning until you're blue in the face.

    /end rant
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  17. Pessimist_cowboy

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    By who ? I remember Dan Marino more than many other qbs that have won superbowls . Marino is a football god ( HOF) . Winning superbowls is not the only way to be judged I disagree . What do Big Ben , Eli , Flacco all have in common ? They all had amazing defenses and grade A coaching . Something Marino or Romo never had.
  18. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Pedistrian numbers in fact they only scored 17 measley points in Super Bowl , and he looked horrid vs the Niners in NFC championship game . The Niners gave that game away with two punt return fumbles . Plenty of room on the giants board for you . Eli is the most inconsistent qb I've ever seen .

    What makes romo great is he has the 32nd ranked defense and 31st ranked rushing attack and the guy still goes out and does everything he can to win . Could you imagine Eli with the 32nd def and 32nd run game Hahahahaha
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  19. Frozen700

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    You all are still in here arguing? This is why Cowboy fans get laughed at. Look at what we are accepting....a higher QB rating, and better passing career over not 1, but 2 superbowl rings.

    You go anywhere else outside of this message board, you will get stoned out the building.

    Is Romo the better QB? Hell yes. If i could go back in time and take Eli, and his 2 superbowl rings for the Cowboys, would I? Hell Yes.

    It's all about the rings...Right now, Eli is back handing every QB in this division, get over it. Laughing at him only shows how sad, pathetic, and jealous our fan base on the Zone is becoming.

    Romo can have all the stats he wants, until he gets to at least 1 ring, he is beneath Eli. It hurts, and he is my Favorite player outside of Dez, but lets not kid ourselves.
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  20. Wayne02

    Wayne02 Well-Known Member

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    Answer my question and stop going down rabbit trails, how many touchdowns did he have have in both Super Bowl runs compared to the interceptions.
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