Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by Joe Realist, Apr 16, 2014.
Claiborne is no more if a proven starter than Graham or Jordan. They would be swapping busts.
I haven't given up on Mo, but anything to help the dline I would be in favor of particularly because this draft is loaded at CB. Personal though I prefer Derrick Morgan of the Titans over both Graham and Jordan if the Cowboys were thinking of dealing MC. I don't hate the idea of Graham either, but really can't see any scenario where Cowboys and Eagles trade though and if you like Graham you'll probably be able to get a similar player in the draft- Chris Smith.
Not very high on Jordan's ability to be a 4-3 DE. Maybe he just needs to some time to get stronger, but I'm just not sold.
Claiborne is not a bust .he has yet to play to the level of his draft position.
Claiborne is a bust.
Proven starter? He was benched after 4 games last year.
Dion Jordan is being traded because he struggles in a 4-3 he's a 3-4 OLB, trading him for Claiborne would be a joke.
So you have the ability to foresee the future? He may not have played to expectations but that does not mean he is a bust as of yet. Look up Darrell Revis stats for his first few years in the league.
Jordan's best strength right now is to play OLB on first & second downs and rush passer on third or obvious passing downs like Van Miller in Denver or like Julian Peterson was used. Both Miller and Peterson excelled in 4-3 defenses.
Jordan May end up like Manny Lawson instead of Michael Johnson.
Also not their specialty..the 1st rd.
and others who were oversold and underachieved..
The first round has been crowded with more failure than success.
i don't understand how people focus on the cowboys bad 1st round picks to call us bad (or good) at it w/o looking at the history of every other NFL team.
New York Jets: Vernon Gholston, 6th overall, 2008
Honorable Mentions: Blair Thomas, Roger Vick, Johnny Mitchell
New England Patriots: Tony Eason, 15th overall, 1983
Honorable Mentions: Kenneth Sims, Chris Singleton, Andy Katzenmoyer
Miami Dolphins: Eric Kumerow, 16th overall, 1988
Honorable Mentions: John Bosa, Jamar Fletcher, Yatil Green
Buffalo Bills: Tom Cousineau, 1st overall, 1979
Honorable Mentions: Mike Williams, John McCargo, J.P. Losman, Aaron Maybin
from NFC East:
Philadelphia Eagles: Mike Mamula, 7th overall, 1995
Honorable Mentions: Jay Berwanger, Kevin Allen
Washington Redskins: Heath Shuler, 3rd overall, 1994.
Honorable Mentions: Desmond Howard, Rod Gardner
Dallas Cowboys: David LaFleur, 22nd overall, 1997
Honorable Mention: Bobby Carpenter
New York Giants: Rocky Thompson, 18th overall, 1971
Honorable Mentions: Cedric Jones, Ron Dayne, Derek Brown
also - up to 33% of the 1st round picks are "busts"
1/2 of 1st round qb's - busts.
so it's like that out there. it's not the cowboys suck. it's not that jones can't pick talent, it's not what most "realists" say it is. it's life in the nfl.
Well if all the teams are so similar..
Why have we won 1 playoff game in the last 17 yrs.?
I understand what you are saying..
..parody is here.
But in the salary cap era and FA...
..we have done nothing but sink into a moras of mediocre play.
I'd be interested in seeing what other teams rank with our W-L and playoff appearances over the same time.
We are certainly near the top of any list for futility.