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Eli benched?

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by bkight13, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. bkight13

    bkight13 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    We had a good thread going a couple weeks ago about Garrett benching Murray for that fumble. Some asked why Romo wasn't also punished for throwing INTs. The Giants seem to have the same problem with Eli and Wilson. Eli's INTs were pretty bad and lead directly to points. Wilson's fumbles were also big and led directly to points(his were ripped out by 300 lb men).

    Coughlin went ballistic on Wilson and seemed to give Eli a pass. I guess there are different rules for QBs on other teams as well. I would suggest that difference between Eli and his backup? is a lot wider than Wilson and Scott, but it is still funny to me.
  2. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Might have something to do with the fact that Eli has won a couple of Championships but I don't know, I'm just spit balling here.
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  3. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    No doubt QB is a different position and coaches are not going to be quick in pulling them even as a form of punishment. The position is one that carries leadership and benching a QB is a good way to undermine that leadership.
  4. Wheeltax

    Wheeltax Well-Known Member

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    QB is different, and it's a lot easier to have a pass intercepted than it is to lose the football. And a QB is going to throw a lot more times in a game than a RB is going to carry. A ball can be intercepted not only by a poor QB decision, but also by a bad route or decision by a receiver, or a tipped ball, whereas a fumble is pretty much always the result of just not protecting the football.

    They're not at all alike. I thought it was silly when someone asked Murray that question about Romo.
  5. bkight13

    bkight13 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    It seemed that Coughlin completely ignored Eli's mistakes. They were pretty bad throws and reads and were just as deadly as Wilson's fumbles. The first one to Ware was the first pass of the dang game. I'm not saying Eli should've been pulled, but the coach could send a better message by at least calling out his Super QB.
  6. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    And he also started to light it up in the second half...
  7. BAZ

    BAZ Drunken Mick

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    If they recover the kick they could have won, benching him would have not had them in that position. Also benching you star QB during the first game is pretty dumb, what kind of a message does that send to the rest of the team?
  8. dstovall5

    dstovall5 Well-Known Member

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    It sends a message saying you give up, you're just going to let the other team win.
  9. Blackspider214

    Blackspider214 Well-Known Member

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    Because that's not how football works. Every other position out there is interchangeable in a sense. They rotate people on defense all game. RBs and WRs come spell each other for times.

    You just just bench the QB for bad plays and them bring him back. That's how that position works. And it will never be like that. Unless it just becomes ridiculously bad. But you rarely ever see that in the pros. We did it with Bledsoe but that was a compounding issue over time and we finally had enough and ended that era and started a new one.
  10. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    One it's not the same at QB as it as at RB.

    You can bench a RB and have a shot to come from behind.

    You bench your starting QB in this league and most likely you're not going to be making any sort of comeback.

    It also has to do with the fact that Eli has won a couple of those things called championships while Wilson hasn't done anything in the league.

    BIG difference.
  11. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    450 yards passing and 3-4 TDs....bench that loser!
  12. bounce

    bounce Active Member

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    Eli has earned the benefit of the doubt. You don't bench your star QB to send some sort of a message. That's too transparent. And in most cases, the franchise QB has more clout than the head coach does.
  13. kruddy

    kruddy Duffer

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    We can only hope he is benched.
  14. kruddy

    kruddy Duffer

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    Did anyone see Tuck say Eli is better than his brother and the best in the game? Unless we back Romo the same it may be same old same old.
  15. bkight13

    bkight13 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    For the hundredth time, no one is saying they should bench Eli.

    It's that Coughlin doesn't even mention his glaring mistakes and throws his starting RB to the wolves. Wilson's fumbles weren't any more damaging than Eli's first or last INT. I just think you lose any credibility with the rank and file when go ballistic with Wilson and ignore Eli. "We can't have turnovers, unless it's Eli's fault, those we can overcome."
  16. Tom [Giants fan]

    Tom [Giants fan] Member

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    I don't know if it was pointed out but you have to take into consideration that it could have been the WR/RB running the wrong route or not being in position. The first INT was terrible but I'm not so sure the other two were Eli's fault.
  17. bkight13

    bkight13 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    The third one looked like Eli rushed it and hit Scott as he was turning. Remember Scott was only in because Coughlin benched Wilson, so it may be a case where Coughlin put in an inexperienced player to make a point and it backfired on him.
  18. the_h0wey

    the_h0wey Well-Known Member

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    The drop off from Good starting NFL QB's to there back ups is usually significant.
  19. bkight13

    bkight13 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    That's my point. Coughlin helped caused a crucial turnover by benching the starting RB, whose backup isn't as adept in the passing game. He wouldn't do it with his QB, but has no problem doing it with his RB.
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2013

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