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News: ESPN: A look at Rod Marinelli's scheme

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  1. NewsBot

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    IRVING, Texas -- Since Rod Marinelli was named the Dallas Cowboys' defensive coordinator, I've been asked more than a few times if the defense will look different in 2014. Since Marinelli worked with Monte Kiffin in Tampa Bay for so long, the easy answer is no, it won't. From 2010-12, Marinelli served as coordinator for the Chicago Bears after his stint as the head coach of the Detroit Lions. He had incredibly successful defenses. They forced a ton of turnovers (59 fumbles, 65 interceptions), scored 13 touchdowns and, most importantly, allowed the fourth-fewest points (904).

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  2. yentl911

    yentl911 Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter who is coaching or what scheme we have if our Dline is not seriously improved and we can get healthy. We had no pass rush and our secondary was exposed - especially the young safeties and Carr.

    I love the fact that they preach turnovers and this last year was a nice change in that regard but otherwise, it was a dismal performance.

    RM is a firy no nonsense coach that seems like the right guy. He just needs players. The talent up front on this team is limited.
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  3. Crown Royal

    Crown Royal Insulin Beware

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    I meant to post it here and I'll try to find it again, but about a week before the Super Bowl I read an article where Pete Carroll actually credited Kiffin for teaching him a lot about how to operate the defense, including many scheme concepts.
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  4. Little Jr

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    The scheme will be the same as last year. Hopefully with more talent and healthier players
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  5. sideon

    sideon Active Member

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    Scheme isn't the problem it's players and this draft is one of the most crucial drafts in Cowboys history.
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  6. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    That's pretty well known.
  7. Redball Express

    Redball Express All Aboard!!!

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    I think we all know this.

    We Need not just players.

    We need motivated players.

    Our players are not motivated for 4 QTS of play.

    They either start out fine and then drop to nothing by the 4th Qt.

    Or they play like dog mess for the first 3 QTs..

    then have to have Romo lead a furious comeback

    ..that often ends in failure 50% of the time.

    It's a conundrum.
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  8. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    Yes, Seattle's D is the Tampa 2 2013 Edition.

    Our defense is the Tampa 2 2002 Edition.
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  9. BigStar

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    I just hope Rod incorporates more Man D to fit with the "talent" in the secondary who are press man corners (outside of OScan). The BdB scheme works when you can make a play on 3rd down/hold teams to FGs, not to allow opposing Offenses to dictate the momentum of the game.
  10. Oh_Canada

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    Team needs at least three dlineman and that's under the assumption that Bass/Crawford coming back and contributing. If they can-Maranelli will look like a genius, if not he will sadly be fired along with everyone else.
    Part of this has to fall on Maranelli's head anyhow, because he seemed to tell everyone and there grandma's that the team was set at dline last offseason despite all four starters being in there thirties. Between the draft and UDFA, the Cowboys added ZERO defensive lineman....that has to be some sort of record.
  11. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    Better pass rushers and at least 1 safety who can provide deep coverage. If those things don't change, neither will our defensive ranking.
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  12. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    Total and complete misjudging of our roster by Jerry, Jason, or whoever. That and hiring Kiffin, coming off the worst defensive performance in the history of USC, crippled this team last year.
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  13. casmith07

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    Seattle doesn't run a Tampa 2 at all, but whatever helps you take shots at the team I suppose.
  14. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    It's an evolved version of it. Carroll used it at USC and had added onto it while on Seattle.
  15. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

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    It's a Cover 3 Press. It's not even close to what he used at USC.
  16. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    Our defense is a 4-3 scheme with 3-4 personnel. It's just utilizing the special talents of our guys." - Pete Carroll

    As Carroll said above, the basic base defense the Seahawks run is a 4-3, a descendant, through Pete Carroll, of the Monte Kiffin family of 4-3's.
  17. Crown Royal

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    Tampa 2 and cover 3 are insanely different schemes though. Yes, the front operates the same, but a cover 3 press coverage and a tampa 2 coverage shell are not the same thing at all.

    Seattle would be crap if they tried to run the tampa 2, which has your safeties and MLB covering the deep thirds.
  18. Crown Royal

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    Cam Chancellor is, IMO, the key cog in Seattle's defense though. He basically owns his zone.
  19. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    Yes, the 4-3 Under is Kiffin's defense only Carroll and Seattle has evolved. When I first said Seattle ran an updated version of Tampa 2 I was referring to Kiffin's overall defense, where as "Tampa 2" is specific the coverage scheme. Carroll uses the Cover 3 now to go with the 4-3 Under because he has the DB's to do it, specifically the skill sets of Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman. He used similar concepts at USC but scrapped the Cover 3 in the summer of 2009 when Shareece Wright became ineligible, Josh Pinkard had to move from Free to CB, and Carroll moved Taylor Mays from his Kam Chancellor-like in-the-box position back to a deep Cover 2 Free Safety.

    So my original post should have said Seattle runs an updated version of Kiffin's defense and we run the same version he used in Tampa in the early 2000's.
  20. Nav22

    Nav22 Well-Known Member

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    B-b-but the geniuses on this board assured me that our scheme is outdated!

    THAT was the problem! Not the absurd amount of injuries which led to a comical lack of talent in a season in which we were ALSO implementing a brand new scheme!

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