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Twitter: ESPN Analyst Louis Riddick on Cowboys 2013 Defense

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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  2. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Everette Brown, Jarius Wynn, Caesar Rayford, Landon Cohen, Corey Irvin, Edgar Jones, Drake Nevis, Jerome Long, Jason Vega, Marvin Austin, Frank Kearse, Everett Dawkins, Martez Wilson....

    All of those names played significant snaps last year.

    How could the defense not be better with a far more legitimate group of defensive linemen this year? It has to be. How much is the question.
  3. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    Who is Louis Riddick and what is his contribution....:D
  4. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    Former personnel guy for Cleveland, I think, now ESPN guy.
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  5. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    You mean other than stating the obvious?

    Heck, just about everyone on this board could do that job.
  6. adbutcher

    adbutcher K9NME

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    That explains a lot...smh.
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  7. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    ESPN Analyst Louis Riddick on Cowboys 2013 Defense: "They were bad! Real bad!" :D
  8. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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  9. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    I am waiting for a real analysis of how the 2014 defense will / should / could, be better than the 2013 defense from these so called analyst. An unbiased opinion at that, including all the injuries, not just final stats crap.

    I don't want these "flying bird" blurbs.
  10. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    It's twitter. You're not gonna get a novella article from that.

    That said, there's no way anyone can make any kind of assessment on the 2014 defense without having seen them in at least a preseason game.
    So fans just have hope...at least some of us.
  11. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. I mean, it WAS truth.
  12. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    What qualifies our current group who will receive significant snaps to be a "far more legitimate group of defensive linemen."

    We have second-round choice DeMarcus Lawrence (vs. second-round choice Everette Brown), Jeremy Mincey (vs. DeMarcus Ware), Henry Melton (vs. Jason Hatcher), Terrell McClain (vs. Landon Cohen), Tyrone Crawford (vs. Jarius Wynn), Ben Bass (vs. Corey Irvin), George Selvie, Nick Hayden, Anthony Spencer (vs. Edgar Jones), Amobi Okoye (vs. Drake Nevis), Ben Gardner (vs. Jason Vega), Dartwan Bush (vs. Jerome Long), Ken Bishop (vs. Marvin Austin), Caesar Rayford, Martez Wilson, Davon Coleman (vs. Frank Kearse)

    So is the defense better because we don't know if Lawrence is a bust while we do know Brown is one?

    Is the defense better with Mincey and his three sacks the last time he started 16 games (and two sacks last year) vs. Ware and his six sacks in 13 games, with Ware also providing more pressure?

    Is the defense better with Melton coming off injury vs. Hatcher's 11 sacks last year?

    Is the defense better McClain having not started a game last year and finishing with 10 tackles vs. Cohen having 14 tackles in 13 games and 3 starts with Chicago?

    Is the defense better with Tyrone Crawford coming off injury (after totaling 20 tackles in his only season) vs. Wynn who has had at least one sack each year he's played, including 19 tackles and 3 sacks the one year he played in 16 games?

    Is the defense better with Bass, who has only played in two games with one tackle, coming off injury vs. Irvin, who had three tackles in six games for Dallas last year?

    I'll quit there because hopefully my point is made.

    I'm not saying I want any of the scrubs back that we had last year, just that we don't know if we've replaced them with similar scrubs. This group certainly doesn't have to turn out to be any more legitimate than those, which included several early-round draft choices that someone once thought wouldn't be scrubs either.

    The unknown is always more excited than the known, and I certainly hope this group turns out better.
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  13. Primetime42

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    The fact of the matter is, we don't know. They could be just as bad, especially if the injury bug bites again. Or they could make a significant improvement to the top half of the league, which would make this a playoff team.

    But there's far too many unknowns right now to make any declaration.

    BTW, Riddick is one of the smart ones. He gets it from a personnel perspective.
  14. ShiningStar

    ShiningStar Well-Known Member

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    and this is correct, but lets add some realism, everyone keeps sasying the defense will get better, well yes, rock bottom is pretty much it, but lets not forget other teams will get better, and we WILL look better against bad teams. lets just hope their are more bad teams than good teams. Forget what we think, lets put some good things in perspective. Rod has the defense now, and wherever the man has gone he has been well receieved by the players. This will create good things, guys that want to play guys that see success, I really have the opinion Rod will get the most out of what we got, the question is "what do we have going into the new season" Thats where we should contcentrate first, and than come outwards and see what this defense will focus on, vs what it can execute on the field.
  15. noshame

    noshame Who wouldn't follow me? Zone Supporter

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    That is complete horsecrud. By mid season Monty was calling a totally passive defense, by the eagles game Garrett and Co. had seen enough and forced Montique to play a attacking style, and we looked better. We will be 3 wins better by staying aggressive this year.
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  16. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    I agree with you but there are many who look at the loss of Ware, Hatcher and Lee and see a worse defense.
  17. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Dallas lost Ware after 2011. Denver is about to rue the day.

    Lee is never around.

    And Hatcher had one decent, not great, year. Melton is better if healthy.
  18. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Looks like we think a lot alike today. Replacing the production of those 3 players won't be as difficult as the talking heads would lead you to believe.
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  19. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Yes of course. All players lost suck.
  20. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Lee's terrific, Hatcher would be nice to still have, and Ware is a shell of his former self and has been for some time. He's sucked for two years, and I've said so repeatedly.
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