Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Reality, May 23, 2012.
This is brilliant and I am dead serious. Kudos to the NFLPA. You just gained a fan for this one.
Yea Mara and Goodell just shoved their foot so far in their mouth it came out their butt, especially Mara.
The video of Mort explaining what's going on was interesting, especially the part where he mentioned the NFLPA using it as leverage. I'm not sure I follow that though, why use it as leverage when you can sue and completely change the league in favor of the players?
Man! New Jersey really catches it on the chin doesn't it? :laugh1:
Worms ... can ... opened. The NFLPA will gladly root around inside and take all they can now. And I can't blame 'em at all. As others have said, "Nice job, Mara." You rat bastid putz.
It sure is. I was saying De Smith was either crazy to go along with this, or waiting to strike, and he was. I tip my hat to him. I really do.
Right now, if Jerry and Dan joined they could own the NFL.
I'm all for this lawsuit. If it actually gets to court, things could get very interesting.
EDIT: I was leaning towards the league's side during the CBA negotiations, but I hope they get taken to the cleaners now.
If the NFLPA wins (or if there is a settlement), Jerry could argue that he does not have to pay b/c it has already been shown that he was not part of the collusion. NICE
Personally, if I was an owner, I'd be calling up Mara right now and chewing his *** out. His big mouth gave credence to all that is going on. If not for him, I'm not so sure it would be as solid a case for the NFLPA as it seems to be.
This is the hubris of Goodell and Mara coming home to roost.
Watch Jerry and Danny take the blame from other fans around the league. This is just ignorant.
Of course, the NFLPA stabbed the Cowboys and Redskins in the back when they agreed to the fine. Now they are turn-coating and backstabbing the NFL in turn.
I think the best thing the Redskins and Cowboys could do is join the suit, but only on the premise that the Cowboys and Redskins wouldn't be responsible for any damages the NFLPA would get. Only the teams that agreed to fine the Cowboys and Redskins.
Any contract made under duress is not valid.
Hos, do you think the NFLPA baited the trap last year and were waiting to spring it on them? Was this a brilliant strategy that was set in place that was executed rather flawlessly by the NFLPA?
Me too. Good to see them taking a stand.
What if damages are changes to the free agency system; no salary cap, no restrictions type of thing? That could be seen as harm from their point of view which would be a couple of reasons why they wouldn't join the nflpa. They also don't want to make enemies out of their own business partners.
That won't happen. Even the NFLPA knows that is a bad idea.
I'm not Hos, but I don't think that's the point he was getting at. I think he was getting at the NFLPA agreeing to the fine for the Cowboys and Redskins so they could then use Mara and Goodell's own big mouths against them in this lawsuit.
The NFL is essentially an illegal organization. It is a violation of Right to Work laws, and it is a violation of compensation laws.
You can't prevent someone from working when they turn 18. You can't limit how much someone can make. You can't tell someone what city they have to work in. You can't make someone work for a specific company (or team) by law.
Unless......you have an antitrust exemption. The league positions itself as a single business entity with 32 franchises, but when each franchise is run so differently, and generates different streams of revenue, it's a tough case to make by law.
By colluding against the NFLPA, the owners have opened themselves up. Now, it is interesting that the players basically signed off on this collusion during the negotiations, but perhaps they will claim they were unaware of the level of collusion that occurred.
I'm tell you folks, the NFL is in trouble. Not now, or in the next five years, but it is going to change DRAMATICALLY. Between the concussion lawsuits, people pulling their kids out of football and into other sports, rules changes to address injuries, high schools and colleges dropping the sport out of fear of litigation, and the results of legal cases such as this, the game as we know it could evaporate before our eyes.
Enjoy football the way we know it while you can.
Thanks YR! I was just debating in my head if this was a long term strategy by the NFLPA after they knew they were going to be forced into an agreement they didnt like or if the circumstances surrounding Mara opening his dumb mouth created a perfect storm to allow the NFLPA to open a can of whoop *** on the NFL.
Wouldn't be duress, but they could make some sort of fraud argument. I wonder if they really even knew what they were approving at the time or if the NFL misled them.