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Recap: ESPND Todd Archer Chat Wrap - 06/13/04

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WoodysGirl, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    JMO but it's a coin flip. If he is healthy he makes the final 53. But that is a big if.
  2. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    Everyone has improved their Spaghetti, while Dallas is finally catching up to the curve on the trench game after literally Decades, but now the off speed high inside meatball is effective with Jerry limp noodle at the plate.

    Hot Dog, Dallas doesn't have enough sauce on their pitches anymore they are getting road outta town like garlic breath running home across the street to Rangers Stadium. Good thing the neighbors set the bar just as low on the mechanically separated chicken parts and other ingredients that are best left unanswered.
  3. BigStar

    BigStar Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Continuity in the scheme will allow players to feel more comfortable in this Defense and will allow for "natural" progression or improvement from last season. This only applies to the current D, not RR's?
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  4. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    The only thing that TC could tell me is if they are healthy to start the season...that would influence my guess (in a negative way). Otherwise, the offense is stronger and the defense, if nothing else, should have a better DL rotation and another year under the belt of young players like Holloman, Mo, and Wilcox to name a few....also, doesn't the media get paid to make these types of statements?
  5. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    So after one season the Kiffen defense is the worst int he history of the NFL? One season? It did field the worst one season start up defense. But wait were there not some mitigating circumstances?
  6. daveferr33

    daveferr33 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. As you seem to admit. The mitigating circumstances (here you are referring to injuries I assume) were similar to those faced in Ryan's last year.

    Let me put it this way. If the decision to change the defense (coordinator and scheme) had resulted in a top ten defense, we would all be singing the praises of Jones and Garrett and their genius insight to dismiss Ryan and bring in a new regime. The opposite occurred, so the importance of that decision must now be downplayed (or as you prefer) mitigated by circumstances beyond their control.
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  7. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Well-Known Member

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    He is taking up space that someone else could be using. You know, someone who can walk under their own power.
  8. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    one season? and its the worst NFL team in history? boy
  9. daveferr33

    daveferr33 Well-Known Member

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    That is not what I said, and I believe you know it. Show me where I said it was the "worst NFL team in history."

    I said they fielded one of the worst defenses in NFL history--the 2013 Defense, which ranked last in the league in total defense, allowing 418.6 yards per game. They also set franchise records for total yards allowed (6,279) and passing yards allowed (4,360). So yes, that is historically bad.
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  10. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    Defense: this sis what Rynn had to work with 2012

    CB – Morris Claiborne, Orlando Scandrick, Mario Butler

    FS – Gerald Sensabaugh, Danny McCray, Matt Johnson

    OLB – DeMarcus Ware, Alex Albright

    ILB – Sean Lee

    DE – Kenyon Coleman, Tyrone Crawford

    DT – Jay Ratliff, Sean Lissemore, Josh Brent

    DE – Jason Hatcher, Marcus Spears

    ILB – Bruce Carter, Dan Connor

    OLB – Anthony Spencer, Victor Butler, Kyle Wilber

    SS – Barry Church, Mana Silva

    CB – Brandon Carr, Mike Jenkins
  11. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Well-Known Member

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    Most of those guys were injured for large stretches of the season.
  12. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    Defense: this sis what Rynn had to work with 2012

    CB – Morris Claiborne, Orlando Scandrick, Mario Butler

    FS – Gerald Sensabaugh, Danny McCray, Matt Johnson

    OLB – DeMarcus Ware, Alex Albright

    ILB – Sean Lee

    DE – Kenyon Coleman, Tyrone Crawford

    DT – Jay Ratliff, Sean Lissemore, Josh Brent

    DE – Jason Hatcher, Marcus Spears

    ILB – Bruce Carter, Dan Connor

    OLB – Anthony Spencer, Victor Butler, Kyle Wilber

    SS – Barry Church, Mana Silva

    CB – Brandon Carr, Mike Jenkins
    I know many were injured but the team was a little more healthy. Maybe we can have a healthier team this year.
    This team is getting better and it will be better next year.
  13. dogunwo

    dogunwo Waves that make you sea-sick

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    He did show something in the VERY little bit we saw of him. The coaches seem to like him for some reason too.

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