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Everyone else did, so heres my QB research.

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by BigDFan5, Jan 17, 2006.

  1. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    All first round QBs from 1990-2003


    9 out of 29 are above average gives us a 30% chance for an above average QB

    3 definate Elite Qbs (Manning, McNabb, Palmer)




    2003

    Carson Palmer- Franchise QB
    Byron leftwich- Cant stay on field, above average when he plays
    Kyle Boller- hahahaha
    Rex Grossman- 8 games in 3 years big injury liability

    2002

    David Carr- Looking like he is close to being called a bust

    Joey Harrington- Bust

    Patrick Ramsey- Benched half dozen times BUST


    2001

    Mike Vick- Great Running back


    2000

    Chad Pennington- Nothing special and has a blown arm


    1999

    Tim Couch- Bust

    Donovann McNabb- Top 10 QB

    Akili Smith- hahahahha

    Daunte Caulpepper- Looked Elite with Moss, looked average without him

    Cade McNown- Who? lol



    1998

    Peyton manning- The ultimate QB

    Ryan leif- The Anti Manning



    1997

    Jim Druckenmiller- NEXT!


    1996

    none



    1995

    Steve McNair- Made it to a superbowl was a great QB at one time

    Kerry Collins- above average



    1994

    Heath Schuler- Bust

    Trent Dilfer- defense won him a SB but he was a bust as a 1st rd QB



    1993

    Drew Bledsoe- Above average QB, Considered Elite at one point

    Rick Mirer- Poor Seattle


    1992

    Dave Brown- ouch

    David Klinger- ouch


    1991

    Dan McGwire- At least his brother was good LOL

    Todd Marinovich- poor guy drugs took him over



    1990

    Jeff george- Million dollar arm 10 cent head

    Andre Ware- It was the Lions what did you expect
  2. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    Now I would sure love to have a Elite QB, but I dont want any mid round reaches. If and when we do draft a 1st rd QB I pray our scouts do some serious homework
  3. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    Dunno...

    If you are trying to say picking Quarterbacks in the 1st Round is no gurantee then I agree.

    But...

    If you are saying it doesn't start with the Quarterback, I totally disagree.

    Dunno...

    - Mike G.
  4. BigDFan5

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    I am saying what I said in post 2. a 1st round QB is not a sure fire chance at success. If/when we do take one I hope our scouts dont let us down
  5. SkinsandTerps

    SkinsandTerps Redskins Forever

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    Culpepper also lost his OC.

    Take a peek at his games with out Moss last season.

    7 TDs compared to 1 int.
    71+ Completion percentage.
    Over 250 yards per game passing.
  6. Bob Sacamano

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    also hope that our coaching staff develops him properly, and he gets it one day
  7. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    I have done this before.

    Before the Moss injury he was averaging (over 5 games)

    353 yards per game
    3.6 TDs per game
    0.6 INTs per game
    73% completion %

    When Moss was injured (5 games)

    236 yards per game
    1.8 TDs per game
    0.6 INTs per game
    68% completions



    After Moss came back

    295 yards per game
    2 TDs per game
    0.8 INTs per game
    68% completions



    So as we see he had killer numbers before Moss got hurt, they dropped alot when he got hurt, and rose again when he came back
  8. SkinsandTerps

    SkinsandTerps Redskins Forever

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    7 TDs over 3 games is more than 1.8

    My numbers are correct. I didnt look at his yardage vs. with Moss. But his overall production is damn good.
  9. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Which adds up to ZERO super bowl rings. So much for "elite".
  10. neosapien23

    neosapien23 Well-Known Member

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    Carr is not a bust. The dude cannot not take a 3 step drop without getting sacked. Can we give him a good Oline without labeling him a bust?
  11. Bob Sacamano

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    hey BigD, wanna hear a funny joke?

    how do you keep Wolverine busy and out of your hair?
  12. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    your numbers are wrong if you count games Moss was hurt in week 7 and left, came back to try and play week 8 then left after a couple plays

    He had 0 catches in neither game because he barely played
  13. Wolverine

    Wolverine Zimmer Hater

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    If Henson was bein brought along right we would not even have to worry about this. Henson has everything to be that ELITE QB. That will go down as my biggest prob with Parcells. I think he has totally screwed up things with Henson.

    If BP knew he was gonna sit the man he shoulda gone to NFLE last year so he would be more along this year.


    I will say it now...if Parcells has no other choice and has to play Henson for whatever reason.....Henson will not lose the job. He will learn fast and surprise alota people.


    What just gets me is that Coughlin coulda stayed with Kurt Warner and they were not outta the playoffs yet. But he went with the future in ELI Manning. Eli looked worse then Henson or Romo at first. Now.....if you be real about it you can see Eli is on his way to being a very good QB in the NFL.

    Maybe if Parcells woulda done something like that with Henson this year or next year he would be ready to really take off and be our QB of the future.


    Parcells really screwed that up for us.
  14. Bob Sacamano

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    Henson and ROmo haven't even gotten on the field, yet everyone's calling them a bust

    so no, we can't
  15. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    He has had 4 years hasnt shown a thing, he is a bust until proven otherwise
  16. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    Show him a picture of TO?
  17. Bob Sacamano

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    you have no proof to back any of this up
  18. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    you bastard!
  19. SkinsandTerps

    SkinsandTerps Redskins Forever

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  20. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    I know he did not play in 3 weeks, but as I said if you read my last post he was hurt early in the week 7 game and left the field 0 catches, He also tried to come back and played 2 plays week 8 then reinjured himself and left the game o catches.


    So do you want to count games he played just a couple plays in as a game played?

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