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Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by jterrell, Jan 31, 2008.

  1. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    If you are trying to determine who is the most honest campaigner out there you might want to read factcheck.org regularly.

    It could change perceptions....


    This is about Bush's State of the Union Address.

    As Bush is already President it doesn't help determine much except that spin is still a popular part of his admin even sans Karl Rove.

    I was grateful for it as it detailed what he actually said, and no one else had much discussed it beyond vagueries.

    Facts of the Union 2008
    January 29, 2008
    The president overlooks some warts and wrinkles while putting the best face he can on the State of the Union.
    Bush pretty much stuck to the facts in his final State of the Union address. But he chose his facts carefully and didn't always tell the whole story.

    * He correctly noted that the number of jobs has grown steadily for a record 52 straight months. But the number of jobs gained is a fraction of the gains made during Bill Clinton's years, and wage gains have been eaten up by inflation.

    * He claimed his proposal to give tax deductions for those who buy their own health insurance will "put private coverage within reach for millions." Some say that's true, but other experts doubt it. And even the most optimistic say his plan still wouldn't enable the large majority of the uninsured to gain coverage.

    * He said "we" foiled a terrorist plot to blow up U.S.-bound airliners over the Atlantic, but the plot was actually uncovered by the British, as Bush himself said in last year's State of the Union address.

    * He talked tough about pork-barrel spending, saying he'd issue an executive order for agencies to ignore more Congressional "earmarks." But he delayed the effect until November, rather than making it effective with the current fiscal year.

    On other matters, Bush noted that he has begun bringing troops home from Iraq, which is true, though troop levels have been reduced by only a few thousand since the peak of the surge. He said more than 80,000 Iraqis are fighting terrorists, a figure that includes at least 60,000 "concerned local citizens" who are being paid by the U.S. He was mostly correct in describing progress in test scores since his No Child Left Behind Act was passed, but he overlooked some recent backsliding in reading scores and the fact that some test scores were on an upward trend before the new law went into effect.
  2. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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  3. iceberg

    iceberg nothing is nothing Zone Supporter

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    now go look at hillary with the same criteria.
  4. jman

    jman Well-Known Member

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    No, not so much. Business as usual for politicians, Hillary included...Nothing new here, move along please.
  5. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    They didn't disprove a single thing he said.

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