Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Parcells4Life, Jan 7, 2014.
You dont see many LBs today return kickoffs like Hollywood Henderson did back in the day.
We've had at least one fan claim that Romo didn't pan out. Can someone please explain to me how an undrafted free agent QB who's been the starter for 8 consecutive seasons and has broken practically every franchise passing record be considered a player that didn't pan out? Just because Romo has come up short in big games and hasn't had playoff success doesn't mean he hasn't panned out. He's far exceeded the expectations anyone had of him when he signed as an undrafted free agent with the Cowboys in 2003. It's clear that some don't understand the premise of this thread.
Marino never panned out, either.
I thought Isiah Stanback was gonna be a beast for us. Thought he would have a slash kinda role. Play some qb, wildcat, Kr and receiver. The guy had a huge arm and I could've seen him in a Randle el or Brad Smith role for Dallas. Never knew Garrett was just gonna make him strictly a wr. He had some potential to do other things in the offense.
yea thinking about it I agree
Not my favorite player, but I had some hope for Randall WIlliams. That dude had some wheels. I believe he holds the record for the quickest TD in NFL history (recovering the onside kick attempt against the Eagles on the opening kickoff and returning it for a TD).
Quincy carter....and pat watkins
That is Sophie Arvebrink.
Montavious STANLEY because he has an awesome name. I was hoping we could go Barkevious Mingo for the same reason.
Stats aren't everything. He had some garbage time numbers in there. Like I said, I like him. I like him a lot.
I don't like that Parcells tried to make him a more complete player/line backer. I wanted him to be a seek and destroy DE ONLY. I wanted that for him and he already said as much too.... Just too late.
That summer of 04 I was hoping we would go 34 on defense. I got the impression from the parcells press conferences that he was frustrated we were not there yet. During that draft I was all zoned in on Vince wilfork, sucked we didn't get him.
Thornton looked good playing a stand up olb that summer. Would loved to have had him along with ware in 05 and beyond.
Stats may not be everything but certain positions require big numbers to make pro bowls and get voted into the HOF. Pass rushers are judged by sacks. You said Ware had a nice career when in fact he's had a great career that will get him voted into the HOF when it's all said and done. Just because he's come up short of LT who's one of the top 5 greatest players in NFL history doesn't mean Ware didn't get it done. LT played in a different era for a future HOF HC who built some terrific teams around him that went on to win 2 championships. The game was a lot different when LT played. After 9 seasons Ware holds the Cowboys franchise record for sacks and has exceeded the expectations the team had for him when they made him the 11th overall pick in the 2005 NFL draft. Ware is considered by many as the greatest pass rusher of his era. LT didn't have a single sack his rookie year but Ware had 8 sacks making the difficult transition from a down DE to an OLB.
Ware had 19.5 sacks his first 2 seasons in the league with Parcells trying to make him a more complete LB. He had 33.5 sacks his first 3 seasons compared to only 16.5 for LT who was being sent after the QB. Ware accomplished those 33.5 sacks under 2 different head coaches who ran different versions of the 3-4. Ware had a lot more on his plate than LT but still got sacks while making plays in the running game. What made Ware such a great player is being a complete LB. He's never had close to the talent around him on defense that LT had with the Giants or the stability at HC and DC. He played for 2 of the greatest coaches in history in Parcells and Belichick. Since Ware arrived in the league in 05 he's played under 3 different HC's and will be playing under his 5th DC in 2014 with either the Cowboys or someone else next season. There's been no stability at HC or DC in Ware's 9 years with the team plus the personnel around him has completely changed over the years.
The defense has gotten worse with every coordinator/personnel change because the Cowboys are such a dysfunctional organization being run by an owner/GM who likes doing things his way while being surrounded by yes men. The Cowboys secondary has been overhauled the past 3 years with a $50 million free agent and the 6th overall pick in the draft and the coverage has been worse than ever. Ware has made some terrific plays for the Cowboys only to watch the defense give up a big play on the very next play. There's only so much one great player can do they can't be in 5 places at one time. It's not that difficult for an offense with an elite QB to neutralize one great player on a defense that's loaded with holes that can be taken advantage of.
How could I forget Steve Pelluer? I thought he was our next Roger Staubach and would replace Danny White and lead us to the Super Bowl. What happened in '86 was we started 6 and 2 under White with a new West-coast system and then after White got hurt we went 1 and 7 under Pelluer, ending with a 7 and 9 record.