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For those who've said it will never happen

Discussion in 'Jerry/Garrett/Rant Zone' started by AmberBeer, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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  2. StevenOtero

    StevenOtero Well-Known Member

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    Hate to break it to you, but it's pretty obvious he isn't controlling as much as he used to.
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  3. DandyDon1722

    DandyDon1722 It's been a good 'un, ain't it?

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    There was also a segment on ESPN last night on what he said. It's simply embarrassing. With the combination of our glorious past and circus like present -- it's really easy to see how people hate us so much.
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  4. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    He controls everything, EVERYTHING. Has since Jimmy left. He has final say on all matters.
  5. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    I love clicking a link to a site that you have to become a member to before you can read the article.

    Not ripping on the OP...just talking in general as it has happened many times and not just on this site.

    I don't mind clicking on a link to read the full story at all...just don't feel like clicking on it to find out I have to sign up for the site in order to read it. Waste of my time.
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  6. tantrix1969

    tantrix1969 Well-Known Member

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  7. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Only if Will McClay agrees.

    Don't get hung up on titles, bro.
  8. cajuncocoa

    cajuncocoa Bleeding silver and blue Zone Supporter

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  9. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Cowboys' mediocrity a ratings winner
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    ] Jamie Squire / Getty Images

    Jerry Jones (right), with CBS CEO Les Moonves, smiles from AT&T Stadium, known as Jerry World. Cowboys fans lately haven't had a lot to smile about.

    By Roy Bragg

    April 10, 2014 | Updated: April 10, 2014 11:29pm

    SAN ANTONIO — I speak for all Dallas Cowboys fans when I say “Jerry Jones, you idiot. You are killing me. Kill ... ing ... me!”


    Jones confirmed this harsh reality in a Wednesday news conference announcing the 50th Academy of Country Music Awards would be conducted in Jerry World next year. Which, if you think about it, is fitting since the state of the Cowboys is a lot like a depressing George Jones song.

    “As you know, the Cowboys have not gone to the playoffs in several years. We have not gone, yet we're the most popular TV show there is on television. We lead all teams in TV ratings. ... 24 of the last top 25 shows were NFL games, and any time your Cowboys play they're up there at the top and leading. Now what causes that? What causes that is creating some aura, creating some excitement.”
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  10. cajuncocoa

    cajuncocoa Bleeding silver and blue Zone Supporter

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    Thanks, AmberBeer. That was embarrassing to read.

    I don't think I will ever be able to support any other team, but I don't know how long I can continue to support this charade. I will always be a fan of the teams from the 1970s and the 1990s, however.
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  11. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    I know even I complained about the link.

    However do NOT post full articles.
  12. BringBackThatOleTimeBoys

    BringBackThatOleTimeBoys Well-Known Member

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    He still picks assistant head coaches before he picks a HC and in player matters easily lets them bypass the HC for him.

    But since he's not as controling, the Cowboys are a good organization again - right?
  13. StevenOtero

    StevenOtero Well-Known Member

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    It would seem that the Cowboys are on their way to becoming a responsible organization. 'Good' remains to be seen.

    No doubt, when it's all said and done this is Jerry's circus. The past 3 drafts have given me a little bit of hope.
  14. boysfan69

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    Jerry Jones is a joke as a GM but he is one hell of and Owner. just not a football GM
  15. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    all of this si silliness.
  16. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I think the Cowboy draft process is now set up like this.

    • Scouts put together a preliminary board based on scheme specific requirements provided by the staff
    • The coaches and scouts tweak those results...and at this stage Jerry may have some input.
    • The final board is made with some reasonable flexibility based on need and value. Again, I'm sure Jerry has at least some say if he wishes.
    • On draft day, aside from trades, they go by the board with some minor flexibility. Ex. if they have 3-4 players all ranked the same, then they have flexibility on who to pick.
    • If they get to a pick and they have 3-4 players all ranked about the same and a debate ensues, THEN Jerry, if needed, can make the final call. But lots of voices may be heard.

    I don't see, for example, the Cowboys scouts and coaches having a board in place and then Jerry overriding the board by taking a player they have ranked way below where they are picking. He could override the board and trade out of the pick, but that is different.

    Take Manziel for example. If the organization builds a draft board with Manziel at 18, it does not matter if Jerry ranks him much higher than that unless he falls to 16 and they have several players ranked above Manziel but in the same tier. Only then would Jerry's final say take over.
  17. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to hear how the Escobar pick went down.
  18. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Especially given that he's on offense. We know that last year the scouts and coaches on the defense were not fully on the same page (see Floyd). They claim to have fully cleaned that up now.
    I didn't understand the Escobar pick then and still don't fully...though I suspect he'll end up being a good player.
    But I don't think they reached for him as far as their board went.

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