1. Welcome to CowboysZone!  Join us!  Come on!  You know you want to!

Free Agency: Darren Sharper, S

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by casmith07, Mar 11, 2010.

  1. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

    27,581 Messages
    2,963 Likes Received
    I think this is a no brainer replacement for Ken Hamlin at the FS position. Sharper would make Jenkins, Newman, Scandrick, and Sensabaugh all more lethal in coverage because a QB would literally have nowhere to go with the ball.

    Thursday, March 11, 2010
    Shouldn't Cowboys show Sharper some love?
    By Tim MacMahon

    The New Orleans Saints haven't made safety Darren Sharper feel loved since the Super Bowl.

    "If the love was right, that would have been taken care of," Sharper told the New Orleans Times-Picayune, referring to his free agency. The love would have been reciprocated."

    Sharper was one of the NFL's best bargains last season, when he got paid $1.7 million and picked off nine passes during an All-Pro campaign. Now the 34-year-old safety wants a two- or three-year deal for significantly more money.

    Shouldn't the Cowboys at least consider using their one big salary slot with the Final Eight free agency rules on Sharper?

    Jerry Jones has made no secret that he wants more playmaking from his safeties. Sharper is one of the premier playmaking safeties in NFL history. He has 63 career picks, which leads all active players. He has 11 touchdown returns, more than anybody but Hall of Famer Rod Woodson. His 376 interception return yards last season, when he had three touchdowns, set an NFL record.

    The Cowboys value Ken Hamlin because of his savvy and communication skills. They wouldn't lose any of that with Sharper, but they would address the defense's turnover deficiency.
  2. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

    27,581 Messages
    2,963 Likes Received
    Numbers...my only hangup at this point would be age, but Sharper is playing like a 3rd or 4th year player out of college at 34, like Keith Brooking.

    Darren Sharper
    Career NFL statistics as of Week 11, 2009

    Tackles 635
    Sacks 7.5
    INTs 63
  3. dadymat

    dadymat I'm kind of a Big Deal

    6,022 Messages
    1 Likes Received
    i would do it and draft a young un to groom....that way we wouldnt have to even consider using our first on the safety position this year....unless a no brainer fell to us
  4. 22Cowboys21

    22Cowboys21 Active Member

    673 Messages
    44 Likes Received
    I think we should go get him!
  5. TheSport78

    TheSport78 The Excellence of Execution

    8,460 Messages
    429 Likes Received
    Depends on his contract demands. I doubt he'll sign a one year deal because that's what the Saints are offering. I would have no problem releasing Hamlin, signing Sharper and drafting a safety somewhere in the 1st three rounds to groom.
  6. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

    27,581 Messages
    2,963 Likes Received
    Quote From: the brutal Atogwe thread

    Absolutely. I would actually release Ken Hamlin and sign Darren Sharper to whatever we were planning to pay Ken Hamlin over the next 2 to 3 seasons, with most of it front-loaded for this season.

    You KNOW you're going to basically generate at least a few more turnovers at this position alone, let alone what Sharper would allow Newman and Jenkins to do to opposing WRs. We'd likely be able to play a lot more press-man and regular man coverage instead of relying more heavily on Cover 2 Flat Zones.

    I would not feel bad at all about basically swapping Ken Hamlin for Darren Sharper for the same amount of money.

    You could bet your bottom dollar too that if Ken Hamlin got released, he'd be in a NYG, PHI, or WAS uniform by the end of the week. He's not amazing, but he'd definitely upgrade their secondaries.
  7. johnnyd

    johnnyd Active Member

    1,657 Messages
    3 Likes Received
    agreed , assuming thomas was there at 27 then yeah ,but i want no part of mays at all , and i don't want to force someone like nate allen , jones or burnett.
  8. Cowboys22

    Cowboys22 Well-Known Member

    3,667 Messages
    409 Likes Received
    I'd love to have him on a two year deal. Michael Hamlin and a rookie would them have time to be ready to play.
  9. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

    30,783 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    And I bet Romo and our skills guys would just be licking their chops over it. They could attack the middle of the field like there's no tomorrow knowing Hamlin is zero threat to cut in front of a pass.
  10. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

    8,983 Messages
    2,003 Likes Received
    IMO if dallas was to bring in a player like sharper. sensabaugh would be a goner. not because hamlin is any better, to me theyre the same player. but because jerry owes hamlin alot of money
  11. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

    57,073 Messages
    1 Likes Received
    A lot of Hamlin's money comes off the books I believe. Don't quote me on that.
  12. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

    27,581 Messages
    2,963 Likes Received
    I don't know about Earl Thomas. When's the last time someone came out of Texas and did something?

    I much rather would have Nate Allen. I would draft him based on what we've gotten out of Mike Jenkins alone.

    Nate Allen, 2009 - 80 tackles, 1 FF, 5 INT.
    Career - 216 tackles, 2 FF, 10 INT.

    The only years he had less than 80 tackles were his freshman year where he recorded 2 tackles, and his junior year (injury shortened) where he garnered 53 tackles.

    He can already cover pretty well...imagine learning behind Sharper for 2 or 3 years before getting a shot?

    Sharper, Sensabaugh, Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, Ball, Allen, M. Hamlin...I doubt we'd carry that many DBs, but that's a NICE platoon of DBs. At least two of those guys (Ball and Scandrick) would be ready to start in about 1 or 2 seasons if some of the older guys needed to get shipped.

    At any rate, Jerry needs to sign Darren Sharper. Like tomorrow.
  13. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

    27,581 Messages
    2,963 Likes Received
    I think if Hamlin is released this year, his cap hit for the next year or two is significantly less than what it would be if we waited a year.
  14. SLATEmosphere

    SLATEmosphere Benched

    9,633 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    I don't know what the hell Jerry is doing.

    He's being way too cute.

    Get Sharper. Draft Nate Allen. It's not that ****ing hard.

    Sharper is 34. Ya I get it. He's old. Get over it. The dude can still play

    Alot of people doubted him last year. He looked great. Alot of people doubted Brooking when we signed him. He looked great.
  15. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

    57,073 Messages
    1 Likes Received
    Yeah, I think your interpretation is more correct.
  16. dbair1967

    dbair1967 Arch Defender

    30,783 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    I definitely wouldnt break the bank to sign him. He had a great season, but his previous two or three years in Minnesota were nothing special and alot of people thought he was done.

    As someone else mentioned, the ideal thing would be a 1yr deal, which is apparently all that his won team is willing to do for him. Beyond that, the odds he'd be worth the deal lessen greatly.

    I'd much prefer to find a long term answer via the draft.
  17. CanuckCowboysFan

    CanuckCowboysFan Benched

    2,023 Messages
    0 Likes Received

    Yeah, I'm starting to open up to the idea. The fact that he was 34 scared me a little, but after last season I have confidence in the guy. However, I can't get that whiffed tackle on Addai in the SB out of my head. Yeah, he is more then capable of playing man to. A solid CB somewhere in the draft then would basically make the secondary unstoppable.


    3 years 14 Mill is what I would offer. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if Snyder was all over him if we released him as well.
  18. SLATEmosphere

    SLATEmosphere Benched

    9,633 Messages
    0 Likes Received
    Sharper. 1 yr 4 million dollar contract. Seeya Hamlin.

    Draft Nate Allen in the 2nd. Have him learn a year, maybe even getting a few snaps at the star position in some packages.

    He takes over in 2011 at FS for the next ten years.
  19. Bluefin

    Bluefin Well-Known Member

    3,244 Messages
    304 Likes Received
    Ken Hamlin isn't any more appealing to me at strong safety than he currently is at free safety.

    He isn't a sound tackler and has poor man coverage skills.
  20. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

    27,581 Messages
    2,963 Likes Received
    I would hardly call these numbers "done."

    2007 - 63 tackles, 8 PD, 4 INT, 1 TD
    2008 - 69 tackles, 5 PD, 1 INT

    Consider the fact that he was playing on a team that had basically nobody playing cornerback, nobody playing Strong Safety, and nobody playing on offense either except for Adrian Peterson. And they were still a playoff/Super Bowl favorite.

    Sharper would be even better in Dallas than in New Orleans - he wouldn't have to play Mr. Cover-Your-Butt for his CBs and pick off passes and roam in double coverage all over the field because you can actually leave Newman and Jenkins on an island and be okay. Mike MacKenzie? Not so much.

    3-years, $12M, with a $3.5M signing bonus. Let's make a deal.

Share This Page