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FWIW Babe speculating on staff changes

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by theebs, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. MaineBoy

    MaineBoy Member

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    Garrett did some very good work as an OC ? When ? Where ? He had one good season his first season because nobody was expecting a playbook the old Cowboy playbook from 1993. After that, he had the same problems they have now; abandon the run, pass pattterns take forever to develop, 3 yard dump-offs on 3rd and anything longer that 5 yards, same 6 yard out to TE.....
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  2. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    I think it's bound to help to some extent getting the injured players back on defense next season. As to whether it's enough to make the difference between mediocrity and being a winner, it's another question. I wouldn't be inclined to bet on it at this point. If a pleasant surprise is on the horizon, it's definitely not especially apparent by anything that has happened as yet. You might believe there's realistically nowhere to go but up but it seems to me that if continuity is our strategy for the offseason, it's a pretty depressing thought to me.
  3. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    We have a cap situation every year. What aging players? Romo, Witten and Ware?
  4. CowboyFan4Eva

    CowboyFan4Eva Active Member

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    Yes, those aging players......and your right, we always seem to have to work around the cap....just like other teams....

    But, take those two issues away from my argument. And leave the schedule next year as an obstacle....i still only see us winning 5 games.......
  5. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    Get real. You know your old pal Jerry. He changes his mind like he changes underwear. He could be all for somebody today, and tomorrow be ready to fire him.

    (I do agree with your premise however) Pretty freaking shady last year to call Rob on the beach, and if that was Jerry's decision if I were Red I wouldn't have made the call. I would have told him to do it!
  6. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    Yeah
    People just don't pay attention
  7. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    I'd agree with you, but Garrett likes to throw everybody under the bus, so I just assume he sucks and will always suck, because he was born to suck.
  8. khiladi

    khiladi Well-Known Member

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    You don't remember the Dave Schula play-calling of old?
  9. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    Jason Hoover?
  10. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I think I'd make the call too. Anything to stop massaging his feet.
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  11. Kristen82

    Kristen82 Benched

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    Yes, that's the spirit...

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  12. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    IMO, if they are planning to make a move, they already have the candidates they want lined up.
  13. MikeT22

    MikeT22 Active Member

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    So true. It's almost as if when we decided to go back to the 4-3 Jerry went to the best 4-3 coach he knew the last time we ran that defense. Problem is that was 10 years ago. Kiffin may have been the hot commodity after the 2002 season, but a decade later teams caught on to the Tampa 2, not to mention Kiffin now being 73.

    Maybe after Kiffin is gone Jerry can bring back the flex defense. Has anyone seen Gene Stallings lately?
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  14. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    If Marinelli only wants to be a DL coach then bring in Dennis Thurman and/or Ken Norton Jr. as DC. Thurman has had tons of success with Rex Ryan in both NY and Baltimore. Kenny's Seattle and USC defenses are physical and athletic, cocky but disciplined. Both guys are not just former Cowboys (i.e. Dat Nguyen & Leon Lett) but both have proven track record of coaching success.

    As for the offense, I want to see an innovative take no prisoners coach like Art Briles as OC.
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  15. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    Quit being a negative nancy. Recent history shows they will be 8-8....again.
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  16. MikeT22

    MikeT22 Active Member

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    And that win or go home final game of the season is almost like a playoff loss every year. What's not to like?
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  17. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    1-15 would land Winston.
  18. jobberone

    jobberone Orangutans make great bass players Staff Member

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    I'd be very surprised to find that many coaches with everyone being all warm and fuzzy. You can be professional without liking someone.
  19. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    I don't think it's an assumption at this point.

    The OP was almost suggesting that Garrett should be seen as some kind of sympathetic figure. Sorry, not buying it. He didn't have to take this job if he thought it was a dead end -- after almost a decade in this organization plus his dad's experience, no one knew what Jerry would be like better than he did.

    And if it's truly that impossible, quit and go somewhere else. But Garrett doesn't have the character or fortitude of a Mike Munchak. He knows he won't make four or five million at his next job, so he's going to keep treading water as long as he can, while as you say throwing under the bus pretty much everyone else from his assistants to the QB who repeatedly saves his butt

    The "Poor Jason" angle also assumes he would ever become a good coach with the right experience. Nah, I don't believe that. Most people with true talent show it pretty early. Think giving Jim Zorn more time would let him blossom into a great coach? No, it only would have meant more losing for the Redskins. At least Snyder was smart enough to cut his losses there.

    But our Jason Zorn? Nope, keep him in as long as possible. Continuity, baby.
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  20. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    POST OF THE NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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