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G-Girls are going down, and here is why

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Champsheart, Oct 13, 2005.

  1. AtlCB

    AtlCB Active Member

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    Eli and McNabb are almost identical in ratings, but McNabb has played some tough defenses (Dallas and Atlanta). The toughest defense that Eli has faced was San Diego. The other three teams that they faced are pathetic. Philly has played one more game than New York and has played a couple of defenses that seriously get after the quarterback. I seriously doubt that McNabb would have been sacked 6 times playing the Giants' schedule. I'll give you Shockey > Smith, and I don't think it's even close.
  2. JDSmith

    JDSmith New Member

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    You are correct, without the game against us LJ Smith has 26 catches for 265 yards. Still more than Shockey.
  3. DBoys

    DBoys New Member

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    You said

    "Shockey > Smith..check the stats on Nfl.com"

    Marion did and posted them
  4. MarionBarberThe4th

    MarionBarberThe4th Well-Known Member

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    Cockey wont get 11 catches this week
  5. tig22

    tig22 New Member

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    I agree with you abou facing tough defenses, but against SD Eli had his best passing game yardage wise, course we were in a shoot out too and what he did under those cirucmstances with the crowd and all was pretty impressive. Remember he hasnt played a whole seasons worth of games yet.

    I think its gonna be a great game. Looking foward to it
  6. AtlCB

    AtlCB Active Member

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    San Diego's defense really hasn't played very well this season. Their offense is really good, but that fact doesn't really help your argument.
  7. DBoys

    DBoys New Member

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    36 Westbrook, Brian RB 5-8 203
    21 Barber, Tiki RB 5-10 200

    My bad Westbrook looks so much Bigger than Tiki I guess because he is shorter.
  8. JDSmith

    JDSmith New Member

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    Last year Vinny Testaverde had 3 games with over 100 QB ratings. The interesting thing is that two of those games were blowout losses, much like your 'shootout' with SD. Sorry, I can't really call it a shootout when you lose by 20 pts, I call that a blowout. Vinny threw for 308 yards and a 103 QB rating in one 20+ pt loss, and 254 yards and a 103 rating in another. Sometimes, depending on the D you face and their disposition, it's easier to put up nice numbers when you are getting stomped. Eli did a nice job in the first half, bringing the Giants back, but almost everything in the second half was garbage time.
  9. MarionBarberThe4th

    MarionBarberThe4th Well-Known Member

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    Westbrook has thicker legs.

    Also, Tiki has gained 10 pounds in the off season ( like Julius did, another reason they remind me of each other)

    Tikis at about 210-215
  10. tig22

    tig22 New Member

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    Not entirely

    Smith... 5 gms, 287 Rec yds, 57.4 yds/g, long 23, avg 10.3, 2 tds, 20+ 3

    Shockey 4 gms, 251 yds, 62.8 yds/g, long 32, avg 14.8
    2 tds, 20+ 5

    So if you look at over all stats not just bits a pieces you see
    Shockey> Smith
  11. AmericasTeam31

    AmericasTeam31 Active Member

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    I don't understand why it matters whether Shockey is better than Smith or vise versa.
  12. tig22

    tig22 New Member

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    Your missing the part about the enviorment. You know everyone in San Diego wanted to see Eli demolished because of the draft and all, which would make the chargers play harder.

    On another note Eli played well last year against some great D's
    namely Pitt and hes only gotten better since then. I think he will be fine. Then again he might come out and remind us hes somewhat a rookie, but I wouldnt count on it. He does his homework
  13. tig22

    tig22 New Member

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    It really doesnt, it was just posted earlier that Philly has better offensive weapons that us, and I dont agree with it.

    Just all about proving a point I guess.
  14. MarionBarberThe4th

    MarionBarberThe4th Well-Known Member

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    LJ Smith doesnt get 15 yard taunting penalties after 5 yard catches.

    Plus hes from Rutgers
  15. Next_years_Champs

    Next_years_Champs New Member

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    Cowboy's stats from our game against San Diego

    PASSING ATT CMP YDS SK/YD TD LG IN RT
    D.Bledsoe 24 18 226 4/34 3 32 0 143.4

    PASSING ATT CMP YDS SK/YD TD LG IN RT
    D.Brees 35 18 209 2/21 2 33 2 65.1


    Giant's stats from the game against San Diego

    PASSING ATT CMP YDS SK/YD TD LG IN RT
    E.Manning 41 24 352 2/14 2 44 0 102.9

    PASSING ATT CMP YDS SK/YD TD LG IN RT
    D.Brees 22 19 191 0/0 2 27 0 133.1



    This was also our offensive and defensive lines first game together they have shown substantial improvement. Like I stated earlier The Giants haven't faced anything like the defense that will be coming at you Sunday.
  16. AmericasTeam31

    AmericasTeam31 Active Member

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    Got it! I think over time they may be better. I think next year the Giants or the Boys will have as good, or better, of an offense than Philly. But both are very unproven right now. We killed the Iggles and I know as well as most fans here that are willing to admit it that we aren't as good offensively as the Iggles CONSISTENTLY!!!! I think that deep down everyone on this board knows that NEITHER of these teams are better offensively than Philly. Competitive? Maybe, but not better. And I think deep down, you know that too.
  17. tig22

    tig22 New Member

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    This the same D that couldnt stop the Raiders or the Skins?

    And you haven't faced an offense like you will Sunday yet either.


    and to AT31, I think we have a better offense than the Eagles just not the D to go with it yet.
  18. Eddie

    Eddie Well-Known Member

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    You mean this weak D who gave up a stunning 19 points to the Raiders and a WHOLE 14 points to the Redskins?

    Do the math bro ...
  19. AmericasTeam31

    AmericasTeam31 Active Member

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    Homer:blind: :nana:
  20. superpunk

    superpunk Benched

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    Actually, we've faced two offenses that were BETTER, and beat them both. ;)

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