Garrett's first speech to team vs. Parcell's first speech

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  1. igtmfo

    igtmfo Well-Known Member

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    You all have seen at least some of Garrett's recent motivational speech vid.

    I hope you don't mind me spinning for the second time on this board, a true holiday favorite and chestnut, namely Parcell's yearly motivational "first day" speech back in the late 90s given to the Jets, verbatim (from one of his books).

    No they're not quite equal since the below speech is Parcell's first-day speech at rookie minicamp, but close enough you figure.

    In a nutshell: Jason talks of Einstein as an innovator, while Parcells says he is going to kick your *** if you screw up.

    Put yourself in the audience and see whether Jason's speech or Parcell's would fire you up:

    'Okay, fellas, I'm Bill Parcells. I'd like to welcome you to the New York Jets. This weekend is an orientation of sorts. This is a time where we try to get to know you guys and explain to you to the best of our ability how we do things and what we expect from you. To try to teach you in a short period of time the things we think will assist you in your efforts to make the team. In my experience, those people who accept these ideas succeed. Those that don't accept them usually have very little chance. It's in both our best interests that every one of you players succeed, so we're gonna try to be on the same page with you.

    We're gonna explain things that, based on our experience, we feel are important in the pursuit of a professional football career. The competition level is going up, so some of those things are difficult. Now, before we go any further, I want to introduce our staff to give you a fix on those people you'll be dealing with here. I'm gonna start with four people who are in our support staff. . . .

    David Price, here in the brown shirt, is our head trainer. He talks to me and will talk to you about injuries. You don't talk to anyone else about injuries, including media members.

    Clay Hampton is our head equipment man. Any equipment problems that you have or anything that you need, you go see Clay. Don't pick up anything in the locker room that does not belong to you. That is a good way to get out of here fast. If you need to have it, Clay knows where to get it. . . .

    Carl Banks, a former NFL player, a real good one I might add, is in charge of our player development programs. He will help you adjust to the things outside of football, based on his experience and his knowledge of New York and the area--simple things such as how to set up a bank account, where to eat when you're on your own, where to do your laundry, where to go and where not to go--so you can survive in this community. Carl will help you look down the road at things like continuing education and internships. We want to make sure that our players have a chance to be successful both on the field and off the field. We started this program a couple of years ago, and we're doing well with it. A lot of our players are interning in the off-season with corporations and companies here in New York, and that helps them in the future.

    The farthest on my right here is Steve Yarnell. He's our director of security and a former FBI agent. If you've got a problem that involves law enforcement, Steve's the man to go see. You can't be carrying guns around here, and he'll explain what the New York gun laws are. He can even help with an expired driver's license, things like that. Don't come into my office with your problems. Go to him and he'll speak with me.

    We're not interested in players who have problems. We want you to put all the problems you have behind you. I don't need guys who have pregnant girlfriends that are calling them on the phone and all that sh!t. I am too old for it and I don't care about it. I want guys who can concentrate on being a football player. Get focused and the next time we see you, which will be in the middle of May, the last cuts in training camp, then you have a chance. So put the problems away.

    I'm gonna call these names in alphabetical order. This is my first time seeing some of you, so when I call your name I want you to stand up, repeat your name if I pronounced it incorrectly, tell us what school you're from and what position you play. . . .

    Okay, guys. Let me tell you a little bit about the purpose of this camp, what we're trying to do here. We are trying to introduce you to, like I said, the way we do things. We'll give you a few fundamental drills. We're going to give you a little introduction to the football, but you'll get more of that when you come back here in late May, early June.

    Now let's talk about the weight program. The veteran players you're gonna be competing with have been here for two and a half hours a day, four days a week for the last five weeks. They've got twenty workouts in, and they're headed for forty workouts prior to their minicamp the last week of May. Those guys are here. Also, our running program this week was five 350-yard strides on Monday. Ten 160s on Tuesday. And sixteen 110s on Wednesday.

    That should give you an idea of our conditioning program and what we're gonna expect. When you come back for training camp, we have a conditioning test. If you don't pass the test, you're probably not gonna be here very long. It's important to me as the head coach. I want well-conditioned players at the proper weight with good stamina and endurance. That's what I'm looking for. Everything you do from here on out is evaluated. Don't try to be inconspicuous because we're gonna look for you. Everything you do is part of the evaluation process. We base our evaluations on a few things.

    First of all, we don't feel responsible as a coaching staff to come to the hotel and wake you up to make sure you're where you're supposed to be. You just need to be there. And you need to be on time. You don't walk into these meetings a minute late. In pro football, if you're late you get fined. And it's a lot of money. If you oversleep we'll begin to feel that you're not dependable and we can't count on you. Maybe you're always in trouble, you've got girl problems, or you drink too much, or you use drugs. Any kind of problem that detracts from your ability to help our team perform lessens your chances of being around here. I have zero tolerance for that stuff, so get the message. . . .

    Now don't come in here and say, "Bill, you owe me a chance." I don't owe you anything. You make your own chances. One of the most important things we evaluate you on is whether you know what to do on a given play. I always use this example every year. Odell, you're a running back, right? If Odell Collins does not know his first assignment--the blitz pickup rules--I am not going to play him in the preseason games, understand? You are not even getting into the game. . . .

    You need to study. If you do not know, you do not sit there and pretend you do. You need to go to your position coach and find out exactly how we want you to do things. If it is still not clear and everybody else around you seems to look like they understand it and you do not, and you are afraid to raise your hand or afraid to talk to them, that is stupidity on your part. If you don't find out what to do you're not going to play. It is their job to teach you, but it is your job to find out.

    Execution is also important. Now, gentlemen, if our receivers coach tells you to run a fifteen-yard comeback but you run a twelve, and you are open before we are ready to throw it, he will correct you. Then let's say you run eighteen and you are still not precise. If you don't have a good feel of what to do or are unable to make a judgment that allows you to do it, you are not going to play. Do what we tell you, not what is instinctive to you.

    The next thing is, can you be the same person every day? Do I see some of you guys come out to practice and one day you look like a world-beater, the next day you're just a little too tired and just can't keep up?

    Training camp is hard. You have to have some staying power. You will hear me say that a lot. You are young players. You don't know what to expect. You don't know where the camp is going. You don't know anything about the competition. You don't know anything about anything. You are just out there trying to do it, and those of you that have got the drive to hang in there and execute the way we need, we will start noticing.

    Item number four: stamina. For example, Adderly, if you can only run your routes when you feel good or early in practice when you still have your quickness, but you're not in good enough condition to run them later, we will work you. We will run you more than you've ever run before. You'll run more patterns, more drills, and more routes. We're only going to have three deep at a position, maybe four at the most, so we need guys who can endure.

    The last thing is talent. The first four things should be equal for everybody in this room. Everybody should know what to do, everybody should try to follow their assignments, everybody should be reliable and dependable and consistent, and everybody should be in condition.

    Then it comes down to what kind of talent you have. If you have enough talent to play, but there's not enough roster spots here or you just don't fit in, somebody is going to see it. Someone will see it and you will wind up with a job somewhere else. . . .

    You're in competition not only with that fourth wide receiver, or that fifth wide receiver, or seventh linebacker. You are also in competition with all the other linebackers on other teams that might be cut. We have scouts out all summer looking at other teams for a reason. . . .

    It always comes down to the forty-first, forty-second, forty-third, and forty-fourth guys. Who are they? They're the guys that when we put them in the game, we know that we're gonna get X number of plays out of them. So, I happen to know Foreman. You played defense for a while, didn't you? Now he's a wide receiver who has played defense. That makes me think that he might be able to tackle somebody. If he can tackle somebody, he might be more valuable to me than a better wide receiver who can't tackle anybody. Maybe I can use him on punt returns. Maybe he's tough enough to cover kickoffs. I don't know, but if he is, he has a better chance versus somebody who can't do that. . . .

    There are positions available on offense, defense, and special teams. These positions are highly competitive. The more positions you can fill and do them well, the better chance you have to compete. If you have a particular skill--say you're a snapper. Now, I don't need guys that are trying to be a snapper who have never snapped in their lives. But if you snap, step up and let our special teams coach know. If you're a punt returner, I mean a legitimate punt returner--I don't feel like manufacturing punt returners--if you've got some confidence there, let (the special teams coach) know. If you've played any position on the punt team
    or kickoff team, let him know. He'll check to see if you can do some of those things. So that's another way to get onto the team. You've got your position as well as your special teams position. . . .

    What we're gonna do from here on out is something like this: the NCAA has rules that prohibit players from coming to their pro team before they finish their schoolwork. We've checked on all your schools and there are two players here whose school's final exams finish after May 16. We're gonna bring you guys back in here about May 16. We'll take care of you. We're gonna have a place for you to sleep at Hofstra, you don't have to pay for that. We're gonna give you seventy dollars a day for food. That's about four hundred dollars a week for food. You need some type of transportation, because we're not gonna be driving you around. In the first ten days when you come back, we're gonna put you in our off-season program. Then we're gonna have a veteran minicamp. I usually never put the rookies in with the vets, but this time I'm gonna put you guys in with the vets. Then I'm gonna keep some vets and all you guys in the first week of June and I'm gonna give you another workout. When the coaches go on vacation, the rookies will stay here until July.

    There's a day absence, when the draft choices have to go to a rookie symposium in northern Virginia. Carl Banks will take you. The rest of you will stay here and train with John. When you leave here on July 9, you'll be in the condition to make that your position. You'll be stronger, you'll be ready to compete at the best level that you can. . . .

    Now let me tell you this. Everyone on this team is going to have a reporting weight. We're gonna test some of you to see if you can lose some weight. Just to see if you've got enough discipline to do it and train and get in shape and run and lose a few pounds. If you don't lose the weight and you come in Overweight, it's $93 per pound, per day. So some of you fat guys if you're ten pounds over, that's $930 a day, and the next week if you're nine pounds over then it's nine times $93. Now we're not just gonna indiscriminately say to the big guys who are 320 pounds to get down to 280. We're not stupid. We're gonna take a look at you and do some body fat testing. We'll see what kind of stamina you've got, whether you can do anything at all. John and I will talk and try to give you a reporting weight that's good and gives
    you the best chance to succeed.

    Other than that, fellas, I want you to be on time. I want you to pay attention when you're here and I want you to help us win games. Some guys get onto pro football teams and they start walking around thinking they're important because they play for the New York Jets. I don't like guys that think they're important. I don't like guys hanging out in the bars with New York Jets sh!t on, walking around like you did something. You haven't done anything yet. Stay out of the bar in the hotel. It's off limits. I don't want any party guys. . . .

    Next thing, tomorrow will be your first exposure to the media. I don't want to hear anything about how you're going to do, about how great you are, or who you're gonna beat out. All of you are just trying to make a contribution to the team. You're gonna do the best you can. You're gonna try to get an understanding of what it takes to play pro football. You're rookie players. Act like rookie players. There's no shame in that. Everyone on this team was a rookie once. Be humble. The New York press is very difficult and I'm gonna say this a couple of times: don't think they're trying to be friends with you. Some guy comes up to you and all of a sudden he's your new best friend. Just be very businesslike, be honest, be cordial, be receptive, give him a direct answer, but don't try to be friends with him, because they don't care about friendship. They're just trying to get in. That's their job. You never know who you're talking to in New York. Be suspicious.

    My dad used to tell me something that served me very well. I tell my team this all the time. Don't go anyplace around here where you're not known or you're not welcome and you'll stay out of trouble.

    Now, what we're gonna do is have offensive and defensive meetings here. . . . We're gonna have you here until about nine o'clock tonight. Now here's the deal, (Randy) Thomas. You're in charge of the vans. You got me? Since you're the highest draft choice we've got, that means you're responsible for making sure that everybody's *** is on the van before it comes over here at eight-thirty. If somebody is not on the van, I'm holding you responsible, so you figure out how to do it. We'll have a meeting in the morning. We'll have breakfast, then we'll come back here for a meeting.

    We're gonna have indoor testing tomorrow morning: bench press, vertical jumps, and the standing broad jump. We will also be testing for flexibility and stretching. We'll have outdoor testing in the afternoon: forty-yard dashes, backpedaling, and agility drills, that kind of thing. . . .

    We're gonna have a weight program presentation. Pay attention to that. If you're not doing cleans and squats, you're gonna have a hard time here. They are the staple exercises of the New York Jets. . . .

    We're trying to win championships here, fellas. That's what we're here to do. We're not here to look good. We're not playing for second place. We play to win. My players have that mentality now. You have to get that mentality that is gonna allow you to be successful. We're here to help you. That's what we're gonna do from here on out.

    If you're sensitive, you're gonna have a hard time around here. I have a bad temper. I swear, I yell, I do a lot of things. If you're sensitive, you're gonna have a hard time. If you're not sensitive, you'll get along fine. I'm not asking you to be a tin soldier. Just be who you are, but pay attention, be on time, be
    in shape, and try to help us win games.

    See you in the morning.'"

  2. fffiasco

    fffiasco Active Member

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    sorry man im not reading all of that. Plus Garrett and Parcells have completely different personalities... just like many successful coaches. One personality hasnt been proven to be more effective.
  3. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Dead on, igt. I was thinking that same thing when Garrett was talking about Einstein and Copernicus or Galileo or whoever... That that's nice and all, but you have to know your audience, and I bet most of these guys don't give a crap about those people. I just can't see most successful coaches trying to reach their players like that. Maybe Marv Levy, that's about it.

    But on the Parcells "kick your butt part".... Yeah. Garrett tried to be tough like that at times but then he also says, "Congratulations, this is a hard room to get into" blah blah blah. Kick their butt but then praise them for something they haven't even accomplished yet. Be all tough but then call them buddy-buddy nicknames like "Spence" and "Jenks". Seems like one of those people who tries to be all things to all people, and that never works.

    But then I've never gotten the appeal of the guy, so there you go.
  4. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Parcells teams teams played hard and sloppy. Garrett's teams IMO play harder and just as sloppy. This fixation on a speech is mindnumbing.
  5. SWG9

    SWG9 Well-Known Member

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    It's almost like there's an player issue...
  6. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    Then they rewrote the record books in NY with 1 playoff win.
  7. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    play harder? really? probably just because you want it to be true it is to you
  8. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    How many fourth quarter comeback did we have last year?
  9. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    It's hilarious how fans seem to think a coach must conform to a certain personality type...especially Cowboys fans considering Landry didn't exactly embody the traditional ra-ra-firey Parcells's style of coaching.
  10. SWG9

    SWG9 Well-Known Member

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    That would be equal to what we've done this millennium.
  11. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    Sure and twice as many as Parcells one in Dallas.
  12. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member

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    Why did we need them?
  13. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    What I get from this is that Bill Parcells in his first camp sounded different from Jason Garret in his third. Is that the point?

    Beyond that, since Jason's players seem to really like him and really play for him, and the organization seems to love him, I'm not sure there's anything to really be concerned about when it comes to speeches.
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  14. Bowdown27

    Bowdown27 Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you on that I'm not reading all that and I can't stand bill parcells. Hated when he came here. He will always be a giant to me and I will loathe him forever
  15. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    Tough to really judge when you don't have a video of Parcells' speech. It's not what you say, it's often how you say it. I was a bit bored with Garrett's speech as it went too long for my tastes. I don't think I've ever been bored listening to Parcells talk.

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  16. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Parcells' teams were bad, not sloppy.

    And I dont buy for one second that JG has gotten more out of players than Parcells did, in terms of effort.
  17. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    They were sloppy. Parcels himself said so, and that he was unsure what the problem was, exactly.
  18. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    For his standards maybe, but they were lightyears ahead of where this team had been.

    Its hard not to be sloppy when Quincy Carter is your QB, but that team never had nearly the problems with penalties and turnovers that this one has.
  19. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    Not sure which of his teams you're referring to, but it helps to have a number one defense when your looking at those turnover differential numbers.

    Those Parcells teams were still sloppy.
  20. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I don't care who gives the best speech, just get this team playing good ball and winning games.

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