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Gavin Escobar?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by IAmLegend, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. funkytown

    funkytown Well-Known Member

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    Horrible pick. I dont see this guy being anything more than a backup. I hope im wrong, and Escobar turns into Jimmy Graham or Jordan Cameron.

    Eddie Lacy. Thats all I have to say. He was there, and we could have got him. LeVeon Bell would have been a better pick than Escobar, I have a feeling we will be talking about this pick for a long time, and regretting that we didnt take one of these backs.

    Not as bad as 2008 when we decided Felix Jones was the back we wanted. Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles, and Matt Forte were all taken after him in that draft.
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  2. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    With our struggles in the red zone and on third down, no...I don't get it. He has great hands and great height. He can't block, but early this year he caught a nice TD pass on a seam route. Then he disappears.

    Is the last possible guy suiting up on Sunday more valuable than having a huge target on 3rd down and in the red zone?
  3. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Jerry Jones rarely interjects and drafts a player he personally covets. I can all but guarantee he did not pick Escobar without someone saying it was a good idea.
  4. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    At least Bennett had the charming quality of being able to block.

    Escobar is absolutely horrible right now. About the only thing nice anyone can say at this point is that "well, he seems to catch the ball--I guess, when he has had the chance". He cannot block. He cannot run decent routes to get open. He looks goofy. Just a nightmare.
  5. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    He seriously looks like a disaster. Slow? Check. Weak? Double check. Poor route runner? Oh yeah.

    What on Earth where they thinking? Even if he werent a slow, limp wristed weakling they wouldnt use him correctly.


    Is this the process? Hang on to the 12 formation until the Patriots decide it isnt cool any more?
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  6. BoysFan4ever

    BoysFan4ever Well-Known Member

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    First pick turned out to be very good. I was dead wrong about that.

    But this guy seems a waste. For a team that desperately needs bodies he's a waste of a roster spot. So far.
  7. maxdallasfan

    maxdallasfan Well-Known Member

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    Escobar ran a 40 time of 4.84 seconds. He's too slow to be anything other than a "find the underneath open area guy"

    Hanna IMO is not being used correctly. He should be used exactly as Jimmy Graham is. Hanna ran a 4.49 40 yard dash. Graham ran a 4.48 40 yard dash. ***!

    In all honesty, I have a feeling that Hanna should be running the routes that Witten is, but someone in the organization is preventing this from happening. It's hard to see your favorite players slow down and not be able to get the job done anymore.

    For what it's worth, Witten ran a 4.63 in 2003. I doubt he's anywhere close to that at this point in his career.
  8. neosapien23

    neosapien23 Well-Known Member

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    What was Jerry smoking? Any fan with half a brain would have taken Larry Warford or Jonathan Hankins. Either one of those guys could have helped the depleted Oline or Dline right now.
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  9. Wayne02

    Wayne02 Well-Known Member

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    That is really depressing.
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  10. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Escobar's top speed is about 1mph higher than Witten's. Witten is faster out of the gate, but Escobar has a higher top speed.

    Top speed is calculated using the difference between the 40 and 20 yards times.
  11. GiveDezdaBall88

    GiveDezdaBall88 Active Member

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    He blows, he couldn't block me and his route running is terrible.
  12. Jerryrage

    Jerryrage Well-Known Member

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  13. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    That doesn't mean you give up on him now. He's basically a WR, though he's listed as a TE, and there are lots of WRs who don't put up 20 reps. Besides, on a 6' 7" long armed frame, bench press is hardly what you want to use to measure a guy's strenght. Does he need more if it, yes, but can you say he's never going to be strong enough to play in the NFL? Absolutely not.

    I dont know if its Tony not looking for him or JG not scheming, but this guy should be a monster down the seam. There isn't a safety or LB in the league big enough to cover him. And if they are putting someone over the top, then other guys should be open all the time.

    The reality is that he wasn't ever drafted to be a blocker, though some think that the 12 means he should be a mauler. He's meant to be used like Jimmy Graham. The problem is that JG doesn't have a freaking clue how to use him in that rule, and Romo doesn't trust any of his WRs to make plays.
  14. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy Graham only did 15 reps.

    Graham only started 5 games as a rookie and he was not playing behind a Hall of Fame TE.

    There is really no way to know Escobar's upside.
  15. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    He's just another in a long list of bad moves that keep the Cowboys spinning their wheels at 500 every year.
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  16. IAmLegend

    IAmLegend Well-Known Member

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  17. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Lacy looks like the second coming of Jerome Bettis so far, however, he fell in the draft because he had a collection of worrisome injuries despite very little mileage at Alabama and scared a lot of clubs off.

    That plus it looked like he ate James Stark in the offseason... he looks like a RB who is going to always be fighting his waistline.

    I'm not willing to write off - the things NFL scouts told Bob McGinn before the draft (below) -- we haven't seen yet but I feel like there is still a good chance..

    3. GAVIN ESCOBAR, San Diego State (6-6, 250, 4.80, 2) - Fourth-year junior plays faster than he timed, according to several personnel people. "He ran better at pro day than at the combine, but it doesn't matter," one scout said. "He can really catch. He's what people are doing now. But he doesn't block at all." Three-year starter with 122 catches for 1,646 yards (13.5) and 17 TDs. Bench-pressed 225 pounds just 12 times, far below Ertz's 24 and Eifert's 22. "He's not a blocker. They don't even use him as a blocker there," another scout said. "They've got two other guys they use. As a pass catcher, he's not a nifty, athletic guy. Kind of a big target who runs on a straight line down the field." Scored 28 on the Wonderlic. Out of Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif. "Appears to be a taller Aaron Hernandez," a third scout said. "I had him in 4.84, but he sure plays faster than that."
  18. rangers71

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    Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't this the pick where Jason looked like he wanted to hang himself when the pick was made? I have slept since then so I could be wrong.
  19. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    He may turn out to be a fine player but no way on earth should we made that pick.

    I don't care if he develops into an all pro, that was a bad pick for us.
  20. nickjamesw43

    nickjamesw43 Active Member

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    They knew coming in that he couldn't block much they said as much in the draft press conference. The idea was that with his long arms and tall frame he could put on enough strength to become a very good blocker eventually. They knew he was a bit of a project.

    The biggest key for him is what does he do after this off season with an NFL strength and conditioning program. Once he gets to training camp next year I think we will have a better idea as to how his career is going to go. Still too early for me at this point.
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