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Giants, should be punished?

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by erickb, May 23, 2013.

  1. erickb

    erickb Member

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...oycott-causes-unexpected-problems-for-giants/

    ^read this, especailly the end of the story!

    Edit:

    Nicks OTA boycott causes unexpected problems for Giants

    As everyone was focused on when and if unsigned Giants receiver Victor Cruz will rejoin the team, the other big-name player at that same position who has a contract opted to skip OTA practice on Wednesday.

    The situation, and the head coach’s reaction, create some potential problems for the Giants.

    Throughout the offseason, we’ve pointed out the link between Cruz and Hakeem Nicks. Cruz has no contract now, Nicks will have no contract in a year. If Cruz ultimately signs his one-year restricted free agency tender, both will be hitting the market in 2014 — and the team will have only one franchise tender to apply.

    It has been believed in some circles that Nicks’ demands will be driven by what Cruz gets. As one league source with knowledge of the situation has explained it to PFT, Nicks doesn’t care what Cruz gets, because Cruz is a slot receiver. Nicks, an outside receiver, had his value set by Mike Wallace’s contract in Miami.
  2. JPM

    JPM Well-Known Member

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    Nothing is going to happen..
  3. tantrix1969

    tantrix1969 Well-Known Member

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    As much as I would love to see NY take a hit this is nothing, he said "should be here" not "required to be here".
  4. muck4doo

    muck4doo Well-Known Member

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    John Mara and crew are above the rules, and their spirits.
  5. erickb

    erickb Member

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    That is what I thought but the new rule basicaly says coaches and others can't say that a player should be there, needs to be there or anything like that, period
  6. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Money-excerpts:

  7. rocboy22

    rocboy22 Active Member

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    of course they should be. will they be? probably not...
  8. SkinsFan28

    SkinsFan28 Active Member

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    They should lose a draft pick.
  9. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    I see nothing wrong, but it looks like it could be an issue.

    But let's be real... it should just be a small fine for Coughlin if anything at all. Loss of draft pick? Please...
  10. rocboy22

    rocboy22 Active Member

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    I can understand a Skins fan wanting something so drastic - we were docked 10 mil in cap space and them 36mil for not even breaking any rules!! An actual rule being broken should entail some kind of punishment.
  11. hipfake08

    hipfake08 Well-Known Member

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    Ditto - It's the Giants.....
  12. viman96

    viman96 Thread Killer

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    Probably a slap on the wrist behind the scenes. IMO that is that way it should be handled. However if Coughlin continues to make such comments then the league should step in and publicly address the issue.
  13. Yeagermeister

    Yeagermeister Active Member

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    Even if the NFL does something it will only be a 7th rd pick or something smaller.
  14. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I completely understand. I'm still quite aggravated by the matter, but I just don't see this being such a big deal.

    Also the nature of the rule is so subjective.
  15. Eric_Boyer

    Eric_Boyer Well-Known Member

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    draft picks should not be the penalty.

    Coughlin should be fined. Maybe they should lose a day or two of practice times as well.
  16. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    Nothing will happen to the Gmen. They're untouchable when it comes to this kind of thing at this point.
  17. SkinsFan28

    SkinsFan28 Active Member

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    I know nothing, or very little, will happen. That said, this was a "major win" for the NFLPA in the new CBA. Coaches and teams were not supposed to be able to say anything that implied a player should be at a voluntary workout. This wasn't a "spirit of the cap" illusion, this was an actual violation of a player's rights under the new CBA. Is it a bit ticky tack, yes, but it's not a nothing either, and the NFLPA should stand up for their players right to attend/not attend voluntary workouts. Maybe a draft pick is too harsh, I guess I don't dislike Coughlin so I wouldn't want him fined, But if they want to strip the team from Mara I would be ok with that :p:
  18. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    Well that's what I'm getting at. The severity of any type of punishment would be minimal because. I don't literally mean 'nothing' when I'm talking about this. I mean 'nothing' as in a $7,500 fine is nothing to Coughlin.

    I'm sure he'll get a quiet slap on the wrist.
  19. RoyTheHammer

    RoyTheHammer Well-Known Member

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    Considering we broke NO rule and lost millions of dollars off of our cap, i don't see how you find them losing a draft pick over this to be over the top.
  20. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    And there's the misconception. We're not completely innocent.

    We broke rules that were retroactively enacted.

    Does that suck and is it completely unfair? Absolutely. But in order to be part of the cartel that is the NFL the Cowboys have basically signed off on being subjected to such an ambiguous range of authority-- There are rules with vague enough wording that could, essentially, be used to do just about anything as long as enough of the right people sign off on it.

    And while yes that sucks, it's not like we lost much when you really think about it. $5MM in cap space for two years in exchange for the $40MM+ we had in cap space in 2010 and the 'advantage' we had by locking up Miles Austin. All in all, docking our cap space just balanced things out from 2010 at best, so how severe were the sanctions really?

    Furthermore... a draft pick as punishment for a statement made by one man? Ridiculous. This isn't spygate. This isn't even nearly as underhanded as our Front Office's methods in 2010.

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