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Glenn Beck... absolutely nuts.

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by CowboyWay, Aug 29, 2009.

  1. Rogah

    Rogah Well-Known Member

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    I am not sure I agree, considering the fact that this past election had a moderate Republican against a liberal Democrat and we all know who won.

    Don't get me wrong... I am not saying Palin is the right choice, just that this whole perception that a "moderate" is the right way to go is not supported by recent history.
  2. DIAF

    DIAF DivaLover159

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    Also consider the fact that this past election that a liberal democrat won was preceeded by one of the more disastrous republican administrations in a long, long, time. Anyone with an (R) next to their name were destined to get slaughtered.

    Moderate candidates would help towards securing more and more moderate voters, but a conservative is acceptable so long as its one that moderates feel comfortable with. Sarah Palin is not that kind of conservative.

  3. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    Funny you mention Palin today.

    This is from an email I recieved from a friend. It look just at her accomplisment and avoids the liberal media garbage.

    What A Fisherman Says About Sarah Palin
    By Dewey Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman
    As posted in comments on GretaWire
    About the MOVE ON.org "ad" on Sarah:


    The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics, but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here's the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric; it's about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I'm about to mention here.

    1- People forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican's "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits.

    The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la la la".

    Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.

    But while you're thinking, I'll continue.

    2- Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So, she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES". Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them "don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out". They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.

    3- The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as "pork". She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack.

    She let locals know that if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because it was extravagant. Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself). I'm still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.

    4- Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built, which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it, although they tried. If that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.

    5- For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn't start drilling. In truth, they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. This summer, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.

    6- President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona.

    Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that's just a cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two-and-a-half years. I won't be holding my breath.

    By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.
  4. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    It says she has trouble formatting posts? ;)
  5. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    fixed
  6. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    The thing of it is, the average person is not basing his/her opinion of the politician, based on the people they serve, they are basing it on what the television and other politicians are telling them.

    As you can see, many on this board alone are thoroughly convinced that she is dumb. Never having been served in her State, talked to her or looked at her track record, they are confident that their view of her is based on sound reasoning. Fundamental principles of empirical thinking. No one is going to admit that they are being influenced by outer aspects; it's essentially an insult. But they are.

    Most political opinion is based on influential subversion. The number one way to subvert a person or people: assure them that they are smarter than you and let them think they are making their own decisions.

    It's so simple it's invisible.
  7. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    I don't how to say it. You lied. He didn't say the administration wanted him dead. He was making an off the cuff joke, (It's called entertainment for you stick up the butt people) about himself.

    You said he said the admin wants him dead. He didn't say that in the video you purported to defend your statement.

    It doesn't.

    And what I said before was I didn't like the personal attacks. And I don't But when someone steals something you call them a thief. When someone kills someone you call them a killer. And when someone lies you call them, well, intellectually dishonest.

    I have not attacked you, unless you call calling you out on lies attacking. Then if that's the case, there is no point in even posting in this forum.
  8. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Oh friend, do not worry about my credibility. It is very safe. AS for the moderates they are the ones that put the Republican party in this bad position. Conservatism always wins. And when they get away from that, they lose. We had a so called moderate at the top of the ticket and lost to a socialist.

    As for Beck, no one on here as ever, one time been able to refute one thing he has said about these people. So when you can't defeat them with facts, you just attack the character.
  9. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    ala Palin and the reason for my post about her. I would love for someone to show she did not do all the things I claimed in my post to DIAF.
  10. DIAF

    DIAF DivaLover159

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    So basically, you have not changed. Gotcha. I should have known.
  11. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    No I haven't changed. Except for the personal attacks.

    I called what you said a lie. And it is. You still have not defended it. WHy don't you show me the very point in that video where he said the Administration wants him dead? If you can do that, then I will apologize to you.
  12. DIAF

    DIAF DivaLover159

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    And for all of those that keep saying "you cant refute anything he said", his whole rant about Cash for Clunkers spying was refuted by just about everyone. And as far as the Obama-tree-conservative panel one went, his own HAND PICKED PANEL refused to have any of what he was selling.

    So for all of you (cajun included) that keeps saying over and over NO ONE CAN REFUTE HIM, does that mean you are all now liars?
  13. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Show us this. Give us the links where he was proven wrong.
  14. DIAF

    DIAF DivaLover159

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    I already have. Watch the videos, and read the discussion in the links.
  15. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    It will not happen. I will wait as well for him to show me Palin did not accomplish all the things my post said she did. DIAF you had to bring up Palin, so show me were her incredible contributions she has made did not happen or stop picking on her intelligence, because she is a hell of a lot smarter than 99% of this board.
  16. DIAF

    DIAF DivaLover159

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    Uh, hello, i didn't bring up Palin. Someone else did. I commented on Rogah and CowboyMcCoy's discussion. I said she wasn't the type of conservative that would appeal to moderate voters.
  17. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    I stand corrected. I am guessing the reason she does not appeal to moderates is because she actually accomplishes things.
  18. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    best to know all about your enemies

    I watched him a little last week and almost spit out my pop when he basically compared Obama to Chairman Mao.
  19. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    honest question, what did she accomplish, other than making Tina Fey even more famous than she already was?
  20. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    For the short answer look at post 103. Then do your research from there. If you truly do not know what she has accomplished you may be surprised.

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