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Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by vta, Jun 5, 2008.

  1. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    NEW YORK (CNN)

    Perhaps it was the mental stress of preparing for a book tour in which she had to sell a marriage-destroying affair as a heartwarming memory. But before her book was released, Barbara Walters had this to say to Elisabeth Hasselbeck about Iraq on "The View" on April 8, 2008:

    Hasselbeck: I think the surge has probably been one of the most effective strategies in this war.

    Walters: No, it has not.

    Hasselbeck: Oh, I disagree I think it absolutely has.

    Walters: I think a few weeks ago it was considered that. Now there has been more violence than there has been in many months.

    First of all, a "few weeks" of an upturn in violence shouldn't negate "many months" of progress. But was Barbara Walters even right?

    Looking at the site icasualties.org provides the answers. There had been a short-term spike in violence, but only compared with already significantly decreased post-surge levels.

    Even with this spike, in the three weeks prior to her comments, coalition troop death rates had fallen by 62 percent from the previous May and were lower than the average rate of every previous year of the war.

    With the benefit of hindsight, we can look back and ask: Was this really a sign of an upcoming turn for the worse in Iraq?

    The following month after Walter's comments, May 2008, held the lowest rate of troop fatalities of any month since the beginning of the war -- as they decreased by 84 percent since the same month a year earlier. I'm not sure if Hasselbeck received an apology.

    This is not to say that Iraq won't become more violent -- the situation is still delicate. And, I'm not trying to beat up on Barbara Walters, she herself pointed out that she's no expert on these matters, and she's surely a legendary journalist.

    But she's not alone in trying to dismiss the successes of the surge with such certainty and such lack of evidence.

    It seems that for so many in the media and elsewhere, there is an incredible desire to find the negative. It's an unquenchable thirst. How else could an essentially fired former press secretary's questionable claims about the war be more important to cover than improvement in the actual war?

    Terrorism worldwide has decreased by 40 percent since 2001, according to a Canadian study. The Iraqis have gained control of Basra and Sadr City. Iraqi oil outputs have hit a post-war high.

    U.S. Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker said, "You are not going to hear me say that al Qaeda is defeated, but they've never been closer to defeat than they are now."

    CIA Director Michael Hayden says we are witnessing, "near strategic defeat of al Qaeda in Iraq. Near strategic defeat for al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia. Significant setbacks for al Qaeda globally." He says Osama bin Laden had "largely forfeited his ability to exploit the Iraq War to recruit adherents," according to The Washington Post. Such claims warrant a close and sober inspection, but the momentum is unquestionably on our side.

    Yet, after a solid year of significant gains, pessimism still rules.

    This is not a new phenomenon. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi wrote "as many had foreseen, the escalation has failed to produce the intended results." They made this statement on June 13, 2007 -- three days before the surge was even fully implemented and three months before the military had said it was fair to judge the progress.

    I'm not naïve. I understand that regardless of the actual progress, they were going to say it wasn't working anyway. But if I may borrow some Eliot Spitzer-esque language: Don't we pay them enough to at least fake their sincerity?

    I have been a supporter of our efforts in Iraq from the beginning, although I've harshly criticized our tactics many times. But, it's important to recognize what an opportunity we have right now.

    We can win.

    This is not about politics. Our winning this war does not mean that you have to vote for John McCain. I might not even vote for McCain.

    Some Democrats have claimed responsibility for the success of the surge, saying that they forced Bush into changing strategies. Fine.

    Nancy Pelosi says some of the success of the surge is based on the "the goodwill of the Iranians.":)confused: ) Whatever. We can argue about that later. After we've won.

    I'm not asking you to think the war was a good idea, I'm just asking you to think winning the war is a good idea. We know where we've been. Now, let's all honestly look at where we are. We haven't seen a situation this promising for some time, let's take advantage of it. I'm sure Barbara Walters will agree.
  2. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    I kind of like Glenn Beck. I don't know much about him at all, but each time I run across his opinions they are put forth with some humor and good thought.
  3. DallasFanSince86

    DallasFanSince86 Pessimism Sucks

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    This is what I hate about the world, today. People would rather find something to complain about, than give credit for something good that has happened.
  4. Jordan55

    Jordan55 Active Member

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    CIA Director Michael V. Hayden now portrays the terrorist movement as essentially defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia and on the defensive throughout much of the rest of the world, including in its presumed haven along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.

    In a strikingly upbeat assessment, the CIA chief cited major gains against al-Qaeda's allies in the Middle East and an increasingly successful campaign to destabilize the group's core leadership.

    While cautioning that al-Qaeda remains a serious threat, Hayden said Osama bin Laden is losing the battle for hearts and minds in the Islamic world and has largely forfeited his ability to exploit the Iraq war to recruit adherents.

    And of course you have Obama, with this statement,


    July 17
    Sen Obama: We Are No Safer Than On 9 - 11
    from the Obama '08 Campaign

    CHICAGO, IL—Senator Barack Obama today released the following statement on the Declassified National Intelligence Estimate.
    “This morning's declassified NIE is a chilling reminder of what we have feared all along. After almost six years, awesome sacrifices by our brave men and women in uniform, and hundreds of billions of dollars spent, we are no safer than we were on 9/11. This is a consequence of waging a misguided war in Iraq that should never have been authorized, and failing to seize the opportunity to do lasting harm to the extremist networks that pose a direct threat to our homeland. It is deeply troubling that more that nearly six years after 9/11, al Qaeda maintains a safe haven, an intact leadership, and the capability to plan further attacks. It is time to act to correct those mistakes, and the first step is to get out of Iraq, because you can't win a war when you're on the wrong battlefield.”


    Leaving Iraq, when we see light at the end of the tunnel, would be the biggest blunder, this presidential nominee and his defeatist party ever made.
  5. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    I never heard much from Beck until this year and I agree with a lot of what I've read of his opinions. He has a level head on his shoulders.
  6. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    I think most don't care, they just don't make as much noise as the noisy minority with microphones and blogs and forums to scream in. They give a false perception of how our population thinks and unfortunately, even influence the ideal's of enough people to make a stink.
  7. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Would this be the same CIA that told us about all those nasty ol' WMDs Saddam was supposed to have??

    It amazes me that even you ardent righties will admit that the CIA blew it big time re: Iraq, yet now you offer up their intelligence as a "definitive source"...

    When exactly did they become good at their jobs again?? I must have missed that...
  8. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    You've missed a lot.

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