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GM Mock, Help Me Out.

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by SDogo, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    I thought so as well, even discussed it with the Eagles GM who is well connected and he made a very supportive argument. If you look at the Eagles draft history and roster moves they have never been afraid to pull the trigger on the drafts best prospect at a given position. It's one of the reasons they are very particular with their own FA's. They are always reloading and Andy loves taking Offensive Lineman.
  2. tm1119

    tm1119 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't they just reload last year though by signing Mathis and drafting Watkins. It's not like those 2 are old and have been in Philly forever. I dont have any sources, but I'm pretty confident the Eagles aren't dumb enough to take another OG in the 1st.
  3. SDogo

    SDogo Not as good as I once was but as good once as I ev

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    Watkins turns 28 this year.

    Mathis will be 31.

    He, Zietler and Glenn were also invited for a visit so its obvious they are looking
  4. Staxxxx

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    I'm also pretty surprised by this, at least in round 1. When you look at Philly's needs a big tackle who can stop the run seem like it would be number 1, and when you take into account their starters Patterson and Jenkins both are over 30, Philly's history with players over 30, and the fact that Brockers is still on the board it seems like a no brainer.

    Still and Worthy arguably carry 1st round grades but would be a reach here. You could make an argument for Safety but with Barron off the board that's out and lastly you could argue weakside LB but again at 15 that would be a reach. I guess if any team has put themselves in position to go 100% BPA in round 1 it would be the Eagles but unless they really don't like Brockers I have troubles seeing it.
  5. rkell87

    rkell87 Well-Known Member

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    Begals trade for sure.

    Geez I can't wait till the draft I am so ready for it
  6. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    Bengals trade 100%.

    The Eagles fake GM is plain wrong. Eagles need some LB's, can use a safety and would love another pressure player along the DL.
    They'd also probably love a WR if an elite one fell that far.

    But it doesn't matter. Value is astonishingly good in that trade so I'd take it and hope for Brockers to last til 19. If not... Upshaw, Mercilus, Glenn, Gilmore and others become very inviting.
  7. btcutter

    btcutter Well-Known Member

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    Not that the top 13 fell this way. Unrealistic that Bengals offered their 2nd round pick to move up 4 slots.

    These GM's are so concentrated on the 1st round pick that they are willing to mortgage the farm to get "their player" in the 1st.
  8. Staxxxx

    Staxxxx Member

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    So what was the verdict?
  9. Duane

    Duane Well-Known Member

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    Bengals trade and we still get Michael Brockers, Stephon Gilmore, David DeCastro, or Cordy Glenn at 17.
  10. cowboysooner

    cowboysooner Well-Known Member

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    The Bengals are basically offering the value of the 10th pick. I can see it if a consensus top 10 guy at a premium position was on board. Nobody would do it for DeCastro, but if you have a guy rated as your 5th or 6th best player and you only give up #10 value then the chart I can see it.

    For Hostile, it would be like getting 1000 points of value.
  11. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    I know the "trade chart" is outdated, blah, blah, but for reference the trade values are:

    #14 - 1100

    Bears - 1087.8

    Bengals - 1320

    Browns - 1104.4

    I would take the Bengals trade and try to trade down again.

    If I had to stay at #17, then I'd take Gilmore.
  12. fanfromvirginia

    fanfromvirginia Inconceivable!

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    The Bengals in a heartbeat. I'm becoming increasingly convinced we are going to be able to trade down and still get one of our primary targets.
  13. casmith07

    casmith07 Attorney-at-Zone

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    Trade with Cincy! That's a great deal.
  14. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    SDogo theoretical question. Lets say Dallas goes with the Cincy deal and a few guys they like are there at 17. One of the guys is Blackman who they didnt expect but have high on their board, not a critical need. Do they take him? Would you?
  15. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    Agree with everyone else. Trade down w/ Bengals. Take Glenn or Gilmore.
  16. CCBoy

    CCBoy Well-Known Member

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    Give me two of the following: DeCastro, Glenn, Konz, Zeitler, Silatolu, or Blake....and I don't care who they latch onto in the remainder. It'll all be good.
  17. DallasInDC

    DallasInDC Well-Known Member

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    SDogo....What was the final outcome? did you trade with Begals?
  18. Bizwah

    Bizwah Well-Known Member

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    I'd be tempted to take Blackmon.

    Sorry, but when a player of his caliber falls into your lap, you almost have to take him.

    Sure, we NEED help at CB, S, OL, DE.....but it's hard to pass on a guy that talented.
  19. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    Bengals trade. Assuming DeCastro goes 14th to Cincy, and Brockers goes 15th to Philly, I'd likely take Cordy Glenn at 17 if Seattle passes on him.

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