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News: Gosselin: Penalty prone Cowboys have to earn officials' respect

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Shut up and play! Staff Member

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    Rick Gosselin, sports columnist for The Dallas Morning News and SportsDayDFW.com and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee, answered questions about the Cowboys and the NFL in a live chat at 11 a.m. Monday. Some excerpts:

    The officials were the worst. Can the Cowboys win another game?

    Seems to me that every team that loses in the NFL wants to put some part of the blame on the officiating. The bottom line is the Cowboys have been a high penalty team for some time now. They have been penalized at least 100 times in six of the last seven seasons and were flagged 99 times in the one year they didn't hit the century mark. High penalty teams don't get the benefit of doubt from the officials. So you see the Cowboys getting 8-10 penalties every week. In the meantime, teams like the Patriots and Saints get penalized 4-6 times every week. You have to earn the respect of the officials to get calls and the benefit of doubt. They Cowboys have not done that. There needs to be a culture change at Valley Ranch. Players need to be held accountable for penalties, especially the pre-snap flags.

    This group just doesn't seem to have the mental toughness and discipline and seemingly has regressed to pre-Garrett. Is it coaching or personnel?
    Both. I've said a number of times in the pages of SportsDay and on these chats that Jason Garrett is still learning how to be a head coach. He is making mistakes and will continue to make mistakes until he has enough experience built up where decisions become automatic.

    Read the rest: http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/da...ne-cowboys-have-to-earn-officials-respect.ece

    For more of the chat, go here: http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20111212-chat-replay-cowboys-discussion-with-rick-gosselin.ece
  2. Nav22

    Nav22 Well-Known Member

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    (or the refs could just do their jobs without personal bias and call the game fairly for both teams)
  3. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    I guess that is too much to ask.
  4. numnuts23

    numnuts23 Active Member

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    How in the ---- do you earn the respect of the officials if they are going to call every ticky tack call on them? Maybe they can dry hump the air on the other teams logo? Will that earn the respect they need to not get called for everything....


    :bang2:
  5. CowboyMike

    CowboyMike Stay Thirsty, My Friends

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    Been saying this forever about the refs. We constantly get ticky tack calls against us is close key games at the worst time. They have a bias against us that has become blatant.
  6. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he's saying they are scheming against Dallas but just that Dallas is a heavily penalized team so they look for penalties more so than they would if Dallas didn't have that reputation.

    Probably works that way for other heavily penalized teams as well.
  7. casmith07

    casmith07 I'm the best poster in the game!

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    If Gosselin actually said that, that is by far the most asinine thing I have heard about the Cowboys all season.
  8. TheCoolFan

    TheCoolFan Well-Known Member

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    The secondary has no excuse, there are clearly holding on every penalty. It's like Campo/Maxie are teaching them to play like that
  9. Royal Laegotti

    Royal Laegotti Dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy!

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    It's got to be tough for a ref to not call a false start or encroachment. This team is dumb and undisciplined, you can't blame that on a referee bias. I actually think the refs could call alot more penalties on the Cowboys but they probably know the game will never end.
  10. Nav22

    Nav22 Well-Known Member

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    It's even tougher to see a facemask penalty, then un-see it. Still trying to figure that one out.

    Or the non-safety safety. Romo was hit at the 1, staggered backwards, and fell into the endzone. The play was whistled dead as soon as Romo hit the ground... and nobody touched him even after the whistle... so why wasn't he given forward progress? It was a scoring play, so why wasn't it reviewed automatically?

    Or my personal favorite, the blatant Giants defensive delay of game penalty that went uncalled during our last drive. We're in hurry-up mode with the clock running, one of the Giants blatantly grabs the ball to waste time, picks it up AND DROPS IT right in front of a ref. That wasted a good 5+ seconds alone, but no flag. The ref knew it was an illegal tactic, and he was staring right at the guy. Sorry, I'm not naive enough to think the ref is simply an idiot.

    How many blatantly bad calls or (non-calls) went against the Giants? I didn't see any.
  11. Rogah

    Rogah Well-Known Member

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    The refs blew that call and no one on the Cowboys sidelines or the refs or the replay refs or the announcers noticed.

    If the ruling was the Pierre-Paul caused Romo to go to the ground, Romo should have been awarded forward progress to the 1. If the ruling was that Pierre-Paul hit Romo on the 1 but then Romo regained his balanced only to fall in the end zone, then Romo should not have been called down by contact since no one touched him.

    I've watched that play several times and it is clear to me that Romo never regained his balance and moved of his own accord. So he should have been given forward progress to the 1.
  12. Cowboys&LakersFan

    Cowboys&LakersFan Benched

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    Ugh no the refs just have to make the right calls and they often don't.
  13. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    yeah like all the holding calls they have ignored on Ware over the years. As usual outside of his top 100 Gosselin is a joke.
  14. TheDallasDon

    TheDallasDon AegonTheConqueror-Now bend the knee

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    Quick question if they are being bias, how do u fix this???
  15. LeonDixson

    LeonDixson Illegitimi non carborundum

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    Isn't that exactly what everyone is saying, including Gosslin? They call penalties on Dallas that that they let slide on other teams. Isn't that a bias in and of itself even though it isn't scheming to get Dallas?
  16. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Must be nice to have this built in line of excuse for not properly conducting your job responsibilities. I can't think of many jobs in the real world where you can get away with it.

    Surgeon: "Well, I'm going to choose to only halfway do your heart bypass properly, because you haven't earned my trust that you're going to stick to your diet."

    Auto Mechanic: "I'm going to do half arse fix your brakes and charge you full price. You haven't earned my trust that you're a safe driver."
  17. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    I have a friend who is a long time Dolphin fan who said Jason Taylor in his prime used to get blatantly tackled on almost every play without a holding call. It seemed the refs just accepted, consciously or subconsciously, that he was such a physical mismatch that the only way the offensive tackle could block him was to hold. If the ref were to call it by the letter of the rule he'd either have to call 25 holding calls a game or let Jason Taylor have 12 sacks a game and singlehandedly turn the entire game into chaos. I think Ware's reached that treatment. Hopefully JJP gets there next year.
  18. Doomsday

    Doomsday Rising Star

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    That is a total crock. The officials job is to call the game as fairly and evenly as possible, dont talk to me about respect or anything else it shouldnt come into play but we all know it does in a lot of games. It is either a penalty or it isnt.

    Who decides who gets respect and who doesnt, Roger Goddell? j/k
  19. erickb

    erickb Member

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    NFL refs are worst then MLS refs! Was there not an NBA ref that went to jail for purposely calling games a certain way? Someone should really look at refs in a legal way and certainly look at the effect of games when they do or do not do their job. I am sure Vegas would love a probe when a big game is won or lost on a call or no call.
  20. Rogah

    Rogah Well-Known Member

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    The NFL actually does do that for all their referees as part of their evaluations. They get full background checks and investigations by former FBI agents. But this isn't the 1950's... Vegas doesn't give a crap who wins or loses the game (or, I should say, who covers the spread). They book equal action on both sides and make money no matter who wins.

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