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News: Graziano: Cowboys cap weird night with lineman pick

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  1. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    By Dan Graziano | ESPNDallas.com

    I'm looking at this pick, and I'm thinking these very positive things about it:
    • They needed interior offensive line help more than any team in the NFL needed anything in this entire draft, and this guy is an interior offensive lineman. He can challenge Phil Costa for the center's job or either starting guard for his.
    • He's a giant -- 6-foot-3⅝, 312 pounds -- and known as a physical presence in the run game. Run blocking might be a higher priority for the Cowboys in their ongoing hunt for line help than pass protection is, since left tackle is the one spot at which they're set and Tony Romo is pretty good at protecting himself and making plays on the run.
    • Just because Scouts Inc. ranked Warford 53rd and this guy 70th doesn't make the pick ridiculous. You pay your scouts to find guys who fit what you want to do, and then you trust them. All week, everybody told me the Cowboys needed to trust their board, and it appears what happened here was that they didn't have anyone they liked at 18 so they snagged an extra pick and moved down to take a guy they did like. If you think all that's left to you is second-rounders, then why not just start the second round two picks early and add a third-rounder that might help you maneuver into that second round Friday night?
    As I always say, I can't predict the way these guys will play, and neither can the Cowboys or anyone else. And if you want to argue that they didn't get great value for their first-round pick, I really don't have a response. But this was a weird year for the first round. The top six offensive linemen went in the top 11 picks -- something that hadn't happened in the history of the NFL draft. Clearly, this was a year in which offensive linemen were being overvalued, so this pick kind of lines up with that.

    Read the rest: http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4707829/cowboys-cap-weird-night-with-lineman-pick
  2. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    He's wrong regarding their board.

    Fisher says that Ciskowski was fuming and Garrett was not too thrilled either when they passed on Floyd--who was anywhere between 7 and 15 on their board--to trade down.

    Jerry overruled 15 months of scouting in 15 minutes, quite possibly.

    If Frederick comes in a dn starts for 8-9 years and they succeed the rest of the way, this draft can still be good though.
    Lot's of value coming up.
  3. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    there is a reason so many teams passed on Floyd.
  4. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Only a couple of teams that wanted a DT passed on him. He was either going to go real early or was going to slide into the teens. Oakland was the team that passed onhim twice. But that's Oakland. Almost none of the other early teams seemd like great fits for him. And all had more pressing needs.

    I was not a huge fan either, but he did end up going at 22, and to a team who runs a very similar from 4 as Dallas. In fact, a Kiffin relative helps run that D.
  5. WoodysGirl

    WoodysGirl Do it for the Vine! Staff Member

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    I didn't have to hear it from Fisher. Saw it as I was watching the War Room cam.

    It took about an hour before Jason re-engaged in the process.
  6. newlander

    newlander Well-Known Member

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    ........SINCERELY,


    Randy Moss:bang2:
  7. mortboy

    mortboy Member

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    I wasn't completely sold on the pick last night, but after watching some of his tape I don't think I hate the pick. I think with him and Costa playing together it will help the run game a lot. Assuming he doesn't replace Costa.
  8. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he had a very pissed off look on his face for a long, long time.
  9. ravidubey

    ravidubey Active Member

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    By definition whenever you trade down you pass on a player you had ranked higher.

    The key is picking up two or more players who combined are better value than the best available at the spot you traded down from.

    Basically the Cowboys felt Frederick + Williams > Floyd, and they're probably right.
  10. CashMan

    CashMan Well-Known Member

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    If this is your logic for not picking him, what do you have to say about Aaron Rodgers?

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