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HC candidate X: Back to Back .500 Seasons, Only Prev Exp Is QB Coach: Do you hire him

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Beast_from_East, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Take the name "Garrett" out of it, do you hire this candidate if you are the GM of one of the 7 teams currently without a HC?
  2. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    It depends. Did he miss half of his starters on defense and had a piss poor offensive line? If we factor that in then yea I definitely would hire him. Garrett didn't underachieve with the unit he had last season. If anything he overachieved.
  3. CopenhagenCowboy

    CopenhagenCowboy Active Member

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    Of course not.
  4. blackbull

    blackbull Well-Known Member

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    lol stay consistent man.
  5. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Garrett didnt underachieve, seriously?


    I think Jerry disagrees, he said in his interview that Jason has had full control of the offense for 6 years and for us to have played with a lead only 23% of the season was inexcusable.

    Not exactly a vote of confidence from the owner, dont you think.
  6. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I wouldn't hire that anonymous candidate for an open job. I would very likely finish implementing his program in the job he had already.
  7. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Jerry didnt sound very pleased with "his program", basically threw said candidate under the bus for the offensive woes of the team.

    I think Garrett the OC is getting fired and if Garrett the HC doesnt like it, he can walk.
  8. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    To be fair, Harbaugh was a ST coach and the ravens took a chance and many people questioned it. And it worked out for the ravens. you just never know until you try it
  9. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I think I must have listened to the wrong Jerry interview on dallascowboys.com. He sounded calm and rational to me in the one I listened to today. I was surprised, given how it was characterized in the Jerry-thread.
  10. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Well he said that Garrett had full autonomy over the offense the last 6 seasons and it was inexcusable for the team to have played with a lead only 23% of the time.

    He also talked about what a great coaching job the Skins have done by building an offense around two rookies, clearly implying our coaches have not built around our talent.

    He also then talked about how bad the team was with fundementals like blocking and tackling.

    He also stated that he is 100% behind Romo and it is not Romo's fault for the offensive woes of the team.


    Now if you dont call that throwing Garrett under the bus, I dont know what is. If the owner says the team lacks fundementals like blocking and tackling, isnt that on the head coach? If the owner says the HC/OC has had full control of the offense for 6 seasons and the fact we trailed in every game is inexcusable is not throwing Garrett under the bus?

    I recommend you listen again to his interview, not flattering of Garrett at all.
  11. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    i would sign him if:

    he is in the family portrait
    he can give great press conferences
    he can speak in cliches only
    he can divert responsibility
    no one of substance is willing to come work for me because of my antics
    i have no idea how to evaluate coaches
  12. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    YOU ARE HIRED!!!!!:D
  13. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    thanx!!

    i have also learned to start all my press conferences with "how we doin' guys?"

    just to show everyone that i am human and not a colmplete robot
  14. Kangaroo

    Kangaroo Active Member

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    Any Reid was just a QB coach and we seen other caoches get snapped up with worse records than that like Mangni.

    Once again just because a coach who was not the head coach was on a losing team or a winning team does not mean he can not be a successful head coach.

    How many SB winning assistants have we seen flop as a HC.

    Overreaction once again :bang2:
  15. DBOY3141

    DBOY3141 Well-Known Member

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    True. But Harbaugh also has a very good GM who knows how to build a team.

    Until the Cowboys have that, no coach will succeed. Garrett would have the same success with the Ravens as Harbaugh has had.

    JJ is the problem with the Cowboys, not JG.
  16. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    If Jason Garrett never played for the Cowboys but every other part of his makeup and resume is the same, would he be getting as much leeway as he's getting with some in the fanbase?
  17. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    If Jerry were to fulfill the wet dreams and fire Garrett he wouldn't be out of work as a HC for more than a few days. So the answer is yes.
  18. Hostile

    Hostile Tacos are a good investment Zone Supporter

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    He would from me. I see what is being built.
  19. Doomsay

    Doomsay Well-Known Member

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    If Garrett's team "development" was at all successful, we wouldn't have back to back 8-8 seasons given our level of talent. We are not much better than we were 2 years ago when Jason took over. We have improved our canned pressers and our guys are more outwardly courteous in public forums, but the team is still an undisciplined and sloppy mess IMO.

    I doubt Garrett could get anything other than a QB assistant gig at this point, which speaks volumes about his suitability for being HC of the Cowboys. If Jason is serious about learning the position, he should seek out a HC or OC opportunity at a small DIV I program, he's been paid a ridiculous fortune to learn on the job in Dallas, it's time that he banks the proceeds from Jerry's mistake and steps back and learns in an environment where the game is a little slower and easier to understand.
  20. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Of course not. This has always been the case. His draw has always been 1) the Ivy League degree, and 2) carrying Troy's clipboard during the Glory Days.

    If a person with the exact same coaching resume had been a career backup for the Panthers and had gone to Eastern Idaho, people would feel completely different about this candidate.

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