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Herb Scott

Discussion in 'History Zone' started by Chuck 54, Feb 2, 2006.

  1. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    He never gets mentioned when people are talking old time Cowboys, but for those of you who remember a wonderful OG named Herb Scott who was one of the better guards in the league for a few years, he was recently named to the Virginia College Hall of Fame.
  2. Manster68

    Manster68 Well-Known Member

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    Where do you think I came up with the "68" number on my username?

    He is one of my favorite lineman.

    I currently rate herb as the fourth best guard in Cowboys history.

    Larry Allen
    John Niland
    Nate Newton
    Herb Scott
    Blaine Nye
  3. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    Cool...glad an old time fan saw this before it disappears...personally, I'd rate Scott ahead of Newton, whom I think is vastly overrated due to the other OG's who played when he did...he wasn't the type of athlete we find in LA or Herb.
  4. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    Him and Charles Haley, both...
  5. Ashwynn

    Ashwynn Well-Known Member

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    Ya gotta move Blaine Nye up one or two spots just on the coolness of his name.
  6. ravidubey

    ravidubey Active Member

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    Scott was a complete guard without any of Nate's issues.
  7. lurkercowboy

    lurkercowboy Active Member

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    Herb Scott was very good. Another OL who has been overlooked is Pat Donovan. He was a solid LT for years. Dallas really missed him when he retired. They did not have another good LT until Tuinei took over the position.
  8. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    Yep I'd put Scott before Newton too.
  9. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree with this.
  10. Chief

    Chief "Friggin Joke Monkey"

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    Someone had a funny line back in the 70s when talking about the Cowboys offensive line at the time.

    The starters were all of Irish descent (Donovan, Rafferty, Fitzgerald, etc.) ... with one notable exception.

    So, whomever it was, said the Cowboys offensive line was made up of four Irishmen and a Scot(t).
  11. silver

    silver Well-Known Member

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    i don't remember too much of scott which prolly means he did his job, but i do remember ol' nate on running downs, he was a beast. the man could move for a 320 pounder. someone reported he ran a 4.9 at some point. and he played a lot more years than herb having come out of college in '83 and played in the USFL.

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    and in dallas from 1986
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    to 1998
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    that's one heck of a carreer for an undrafed overweight guard from a small school. 3 super bowl rings and blocking for the all time rushing leader speak for themselves.
  12. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    haha...I had not heard that one...thanks.
  13. CalCBFan

    CalCBFan Active Member

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    Chief, I think the "missing Irishman" on your OL was Jim Cooper...
  14. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I think it was Rayfield Wright but I could definatly be wrong about that. Could be Copper.
  15. Chief

    Chief "Friggin Joke Monkey"

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    You're right. I forgot about him.

    Rafferty was still a guard at this time ... he eventually moved to center when Fitzgerald retired.
  16. silver

    silver Well-Known Member

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    Wirght is correct. But Cooper took over in 1979.
  17. Chief

    Chief "Friggin Joke Monkey"

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    Yep, this was in the early 1980s, so it was Cooper and Donovan at tackle; Rafferty and Scott at guard and Fitzgerald at center.

    Rafferty then moved to center when Fitzgerald retired and I think it was Kurt Petersen that took over at guard. Something like that.
  18. ravidubey

    ravidubey Active Member

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    And it took Tui some time to develop at that. The 83-84 transition was brutal with Butch Johnson, Drew Pearson, Billy Joe DuPree, Doug Donley, Dat Donovan, and Harvey Martin all leaving the team for various reasons. Scott, Rafferty, and Cooper seemed to pick that time to age all at once.
  19. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    If memory serves, Tui started as a DE. So yeah, he definatly took the scenic route.

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