Hernandez v Brent

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by zack, Jun 26, 2013.


    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Pats store offers jersey exchange

    The New England Patriots are offering anyone with a No. 81 Aaron Hernandez jersey that was purchased at the team's pro shop the opportunity to exchange it for a free jersey of comparable value, the team announced.

    The exchange will be offered only during the weekend of July 6-7 and is only for jerseys purchased at the pro shop at Gillette Stadium or online at patriotsproshop.com.


    Ha ha ha ha!!!!

    I swear, you can't make this stuff up.
  2. Nation

    Nation Well-Known Member

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    I actually think that's a solid gesture
  3. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Yeah, it's a solid gesture because the Pats don't want people wearing a murderer's jersey. They are only trying to protect their image. I doubt that they are doing this for the fans.
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  4. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I didn't know anything about Edelman. Having read the story about it, the whole thing seems like it's far from definite he even did anything in that some woman said he groped her and he was arrested for it.

    I'm not even sure why it has to be quantified as to how the Patriots operate. If it's not clear that they operate in a different manner then I'm not sure any amount of identifying keep points will change anything.

    When Dallas signed Pacman, they assigned someone to babysit him. When Dez was all in the media, Dallas hired a babysitter. Brent gets a DUI from a wreck that killed someone and they stand by him. I didn't really care for it but at least I can talk myself into the "support" aspect. Jay Ratliff turns around and gets a DUI after this happens and it's all taken in stride. This after Ratliff basically told Jerry to take a flying leap. IMO, I thought it was awesome he did so but I can't foresee many players around the league getting a pass on the DUI after doing that, provided they were even around to get that pass in first place.

    Brent then tests positive for drugs on two occasions.......Dallas is still sticking by him and an ESPN article says that the team doesn't plan to cut him.

    Clearly the teams handle things differently. Although I'll readily admit that I don't follow the Pats on the scale that I do the Cowboys (not even remotely close), I haven't heard of the Patriots hiring people to keep their players out of trouble. You're either with that team or you aren't. I'm not sure they would tolerate a player like Bennett who isn't really contributing and isn't with the program. They traded Moss mid-season and they have benched Welker on more than 1 occasion.

    Wherever you put the Patriots on the scale for how their organization handles situations, it's undoubtedly above where the Cowboys would rank on that continuum. Knocking the Patriots down doesn't do much for me. I still think they have a model that's better than Dallas.
  5. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    That is why they call it P.R.
  6. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    There isn't a question that Aaron Hernandez is a "real monster" compared to Brent who is "the boogie man". However with the recent positive drug UAs and other questionable behavior, I'm on board with cutting Josh now.
  7. Frozen700

    Frozen700 Well-Known Member

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    you wouldn't be talking about brent, if this hernandez crap did not happen with him getting released n all.

    Just stop, you want attention
  8. 8FOR!3

    8FOR!3 Well-Known Member

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    I hate to play devil's advocate here, but should Aaron Hernandez receive a little of the benefit of the doubt right now? It's pretty clear that he's going to be found guilty, but until then, he shouldn't be treated as such
  9. starfrombirth

    starfrombirth Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely not! At the very minimum he destroyed evidence that would be used to catch the actual killer. As I said earlier, If he didn't pull the trigger, he knows who did and as such doesn't deserve the "benefit of the doubt".
  10. TheCount

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    Precisely. This isn't about doing fans a solid, it's about not having people walking around with a potential serial killers last name on their backs and a Patriots logo on each sleeve.
  11. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    Well, it was said that the Pats are a no BS organization. I pointed out Talib and Dillon who had MAJOR off the field issues and whom the Pats traded for and that was bristled aside as ‘they didn’t get in trouble while with the Pats.’ Now I bring up Edelman (and there are others) who actually got in trouble with the Pats and are still with the team.

    My point is that the Patriots are really no different from the rest of the league in this regard. In fact, they may be a little worse as I do believe there are organizations that would steer clear from Talib, Dillon, etc. And I think with Garrett as HC, I think the Cowboys would stay away from those guys at all costs. Wade would bring them in. Parcells would bring them in only if they were getting paid scraps.

    But the Pats are certainly an organization that will allow for off the field stuff to happen. They’ve let it be done before. Maybe they will start being stricter given the Hernandez situation. But, I fully believe that if Hernandez was in a situation where he wasn’t arrested because of lack of evidence and everybody knew he did it; he would still be on the Patriots team. And I think that would be the same for a lot of other teams in the NFL as well.

  12. 8FOR!3

    8FOR!3 Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough.
  13. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Why not? Just curious.
  14. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing anyone who would walk around with a jersey of his at all probably won't be first in line to swap it out so they're not really combating the exposure. Sane people wouldn't wear it and only stupid people who for whatever reason likely idolize his street cred or some bogus crap like that probably won't swap it out anyway.

    The Patriots didn't have to give out a free jersey. They could have simply just informed fans not to wear his jersey to the stadium and if they did they would either have to remove it or leave.

    I think the move is just as much about compensating fans who bought his jersey as it is about looking good. It's probably also about keeping things civil inside of Gillette stadium as well. Last thing anyone would want is a liquored up fan calling out people in AH jersey's for supporting a scumbag murderer.

    They didn't have to offer the swap, they could have just told people to leave them at home. I think that gives enough reason to suspect at least part of it was for the fans.
  15. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    They aren't "giving" anything out. These people already paid. There is no "compensation".

    What sounds better in terms of public relations:

    "Anyone who bought a Hernandez jersey and wants to trade it out, we'll do it at no expense to you."


    "Anyone who wears a Hernandez Jersey to the game will have to take it off or go home."
  16. Tezz

    Tezz Active Member

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    I think the releasing of Hernandez was a business move, but I agree the jersey exchange is good gesture. A lot of Pats fans already disowned, burned or wouldn't even dare to wear their Hernandez jersey. The Pats didn't need to do this as from my recollection this is a first maybe not sure.
  17. Sarge

    Sarge Red, White and brew... Staff Member

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    Hernandez is guilty until proven even more guilty.
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  18. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    Watching his smug little stupid face on TV while he was being charged, the fool just did not seem to really know the extent of his plight! I saw no reactions from him whatsoever. He actually looked proud of what he is getting charged for.

    It looked like he did not have a care in the World. As if he knows he will get off or something because he's a rich NFL star. And, the damn fool might get off!
  19. zack

    zack Well-Known Member

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    No I really don't want attention. I kind of thought this was a discussion board. I posted a discussion because the Hernadez thing brought dialogue between myself and a Patroit fan. He was saying that he tipped his hat to the organization because they released Hernandez. Brent brought himself back into the spotlight with his latest drug test. Whether you like it or not the Cowboys organization and the Pats organization are being compared with how they are handling a player that
  20. punchnjudy

    punchnjudy Well-Known Member

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    I would bet that they come out ahead b/c a high enough percentage of fans who enter the store to make the exchange will buy additional products. They know what they're doing.

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