How about Greg Williams as head coach if Jones decides to jettison Parcells.

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  1. NedK

    NedK New Member

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    If Jerry Jones decides that Parcells isn't it, he should try wooing away Greg Williams Redskins DC away from Washington. Even if it means a draft pick, not a high one.

    One thing you'll need is a coach who will not take any bs from Jones if he goes back to his meddling ways, as he almost certainly will.

    Greg Williams didn't care a hoot whether Lavar Arrington was a good friend of Snyder the owner or not. Lavar was not dsiciplined, Williams didn't like it, and so Arrington cooled his heels on the sidelines until he "got with the program" as the saying goes. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out later on that Lavar went to his friend Snyder (they are supposed to be chess playing buddies and all that) and tried to have him intervene on his behalf.

    I think Williams can handle Jerry Jones, especially if he can develop a rapport with the son (Stephen Jones?).

    The only question is: what happened in Buffalo? But I don't know if whatever happened there should prevent him from getting another chance. Didn't Belichek fail in a previous head coaching stint?
  2. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    Why Greg Williams? Maybe he is JUST a DC and not a HC.
  3. baj1dallas

    baj1dallas New Member

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    Oh for Pete's sake...give me a break. *** did Williams ever win?
  4. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    you can;t send draft picks for coaches
  5. KDWilliams85

    KDWilliams85 New Member

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    That's how Gruden made his way into Tampa Bay...
  6. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    exactly thats when they started the "gruden rule" saying coaches cant be traded for picks
  7. DezBRomo9

    DezBRomo9 Not enough blitzing..

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    And the NFL put in a rule stating that teams cant compensate for hiring another teams' coaches.
  8. NedK

    NedK New Member

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    I may be wrong there. But vaguely I remember something like that. Definitely Gruden from Oakland to Tampa is a good example.
  9. BigDFan5

    BigDFan5 In Tebow I Trust

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    http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/17/Bucs/NFL_nixes_draft_picks.shtml

    NFL nixes draft picks for coaches

    Teams no longer can give up picks for compensation, like the Bucs did for Gruden.


    By RICK STROUD, Times Staff Writer
    © St. Petersburg Times
    published January 17, 2003

    TAMPA -- Jon Gruden led the Bucs to a franchise-record 12 victories, a division title and a berth in Sunday's NFC Championship Game against the Eagles. You would have to agree the trade Tampa Bay made with the Raiders for the rights to Gruden is an unqualified success.

    Now such a deal is against league rules.

    The league Thursday banned the type of trade that enabled the Bucs to sign Gruden. The new policy was announced in a memo to all 32 teams by commissioner Paul Tagliabue, league spokesman Greg Aiello said.

    Tagliabue acted after the competition committee concluded that such coach-for-picks trades might be undermining the purpose of the draft.

    The co-chairman of the competition committee is Bucs general manager Rich McKay, whose team has reaped the benefits of such a trade.

    The Bucs ended a 36-day coaching search by trading two first-round picks, two second-round picks and $8-million to the Raiders for the rights to Gruden, who had a year left on his contract.

    Three weeks ago, the Bucs attempted to receive compensation from the Cowboys for the rights to hire Bill Parcells, revealing the two-time Super Bowl-winning coach had signed a four-year contract to coach Tampa Bay a year ago.

    But the contract never was submitted to the league office for approval and Tagliabue ruled no compensation was owed.

    McKay declined comment Thursday.

    The league's owners can decide whether to restore the right to trade draft picks for coaches at their annual meeting March 22-26 in Phoenix.

    The league's new policy is not restricted to head coaches. It prevents draft picks from being used to sign anyone under contract with another team, including assistants, front-office personnel or scouts.

    Gruden is the latest success story for teams that have been bold enough to package draft picks to hire coaches under contract with other teams.

    In 1997, the Jets sent draft picks to New England to acquire the rights to Parcells. Two years later, Parcells led the Jets to the AFC Championship Game.

    In 2000, the Patriots sent draft picks to the Jets to hire coach Bill Belichick, who was under contract. Last season, Belichick led New England to the Super Bowl XXXVI title.

    This is not the first time the competition committee recommended the league reconsider its policy of swapping picks for coaches. Three years ago it presented its concerns to ownership about teams attempting to receive compensation for assistants.

    After firing Tony Dungy and having Parcells renege on a deal to coach Tampa Bay and remain retired, Bucs owners targeted coaches under contract.

    First, they offered the 49ers a package of undisclosed draft picks for the rights to Steve Mariucci, who ultimately walked away from an offer to become coach and general manager.

    That prompted Bucs vice presidents Joel and Bryan Glazer to call Raiders general partner Al Davis and offer a king's ransom of top picks for the rights to Gruden. Both teams benefited. The Raiders host Tennessee in the AFC Championship Game while the Bucs travel to Philadelphia for the NFC title game
  10. kingwhicker

    kingwhicker BCRSA

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  11. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Not just "NO" but "HELL NO". I sat through his act in Buffalo... I'm not impressed.
  12. Cbz40

    Cbz40 The Grand Poobah

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    Was it his act that was the problem or was it the GM?
  13. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Well, I guess you are not going to accept the invitation to the "He is the next Bill Bellichik" pep rally.

    I think I overheard Joe Buck compare him to that standard Sunday. It was pretty amusing.
  14. silver

    silver Well-Known Member

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    Status Quo for me thank you very much. In Bill we trust.
  15. Trip

    Trip New Member

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    I sat through it with Michael, and while we didn't completely agree about Bledsoe, apparently we're on the same page with Gregg Williams.

    - Punt on 4th and 1 at the opponents 33 with time running down in the 4th Qtr, behind by 3 if I remember correctly, among a lot of other bone-headed offensive decisions

    - Hired a very inexperienced staff that contributed to his failure

    - Came in with bravado, bragadocious talk about having an attacking defense and leading the NFL in sacks

    - Showed a complete inability to handle the media in Buffalo

    - Alienated the fan base by talking down to them

    - Just generally sounded dumb and uneducated when he spoke (I know he's an intelligent person, but when his feet were to the fire, he didn't come off that way...)

    One thing I will say about Gregg Williams, that I cannot say about our current head coach: All the crap that Gregg Williams went through in Buffalo, he never "threw his players under the bus" in the media (to quote a very over used phrase). I admire Gregg Williams a lot for that. Parcells blames someone besides himself every time he opens his mouth.
  16. Tripod

    Tripod New Member

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    I agree with MW. First time for everything. The guy sucked in Buffalo and he
    loved to lay the blame on other coaches and players. The act on the sideline was way over the top for a coach in a runaway game. He's a D*CK.
  17. Trip

    Trip New Member

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    All coaches do that to some extent. At least Williams would say "we didn't execute" or something like that.

    He didn't say "Columbo isn't any better", "Peterman's not multi-dimensional", "Our linebackers aren't big enough" yadda, yadda, yadda. Williams players loved to play for him, from what I could tell.
  18. JPM

    JPM Well-Known Member

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    Please tell me you are kidding
  19. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    how bout we just sign him as DC....its not like we need a head coach the tuna is fine
  20. chinch

    chinch No Quarter

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    Odds are great that Tuna will be extended.

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