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How much better would we be with Brockers, Wagner and Warford?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by keds, Nov 15, 2013.

  1. 03EBZ06

    03EBZ06 Need2Speed

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    Why just those players? We could have selected Tom Brady too or Richard Sherman or signed Drew Brees or P. Manning...ect

    What ifs are waste of time.
  2. Dodger12

    Dodger12 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely right. The Garrett and Jones homers can't look back when the evidence is ugly. Of course, Jerry wanted Ware and Parcells wanted Spears......#ILoveJerrytheGM
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  3. Coy

    Coy Well-Known Member

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    To answer your question I would need to know if Garrett would still be the coach?? :)
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  4. JoeyBoy718

    JoeyBoy718 Well-Known Member

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    Everybody thought Brockers would suck. I can't remember anybody ever mentioning anything about Wagner. And a few people were begging for Warford, but they're the same people who would have begged for any offensive guard.

    If we're gonna talk "what if's" why don't we talk about players who people on CowboysZone actually wanted. How much better would we have been with Peter Konz, Melvin Ingram and Kenny Vaccaro?
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  5. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member

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    So I guess it's safe to say that we can't talk about our good drafts either because we need to "quit living in the past".
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  6. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member

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    What post does?
  7. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    A whole lot. I nominate.....me......for post of the day. All ye say aye. Nays? The ayes have it.
  8. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Warford I won't even count because I don't think he was on our board. But Brockers and Wagner are the players Jerry and Stephen said they'd have taken immediately after the draft, so I think those are legitimate questions. And I know I'd rather have them than Claiborne.
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  9. JoeyBoy718

    JoeyBoy718 Well-Known Member

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    Well, that's what makes your 3 names confusing. Are we going by who Jerry+Jason's Plan B was or are we going by who the fans on CowboysZone wanted? If we're going by who people here wanted, then take out Brockers because everybody thought he'd be a bust and take off Wagner because no one mentioned him. If we're going by our Plan B then we would've taken T. Williams in the 2nd round and Escobar in the 3rd.
  10. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Ha ha why stop there? How much better would we be with Randy Moss versus Greg Ellis? :p
  11. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    I remember when we drafted Lee, how many were upset we took a LBer in the second round of the draft.
    I remember when we drafted Carter, people were upset we took a LBer in the second round of the draft. Again.

    I can only imagine how upset people would have been if we used another 2nd round pick on a LBer.

    And Brockers? This board was calling him a bust.
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  12. Chris in Arizona

    Chris in Arizona I am Death

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    Warford was not on our board at all. Considering how he has played in Detroit so far, shouldn't that be an issue as well? Who decided he wasn't even good enough for us to draft in the 6th round?

    The best part about Mo is we never even met him with him before the draft. He has a serious learning issue (ADHD) so I'd think we would at least want to talk to him before trading two picks to draft him. No, no, He's Deion. This is the constant decision making that keeps us mediocre.
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  13. fishspill

    fishspill Well-Known Member

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    No-win thread.
    You complain about draft picks and get bludgeoned by folks that say "Stop living in the past."
    You complain when the picks are made and you get "I think the front office knows more than you. Move out of your mother's basement."
    Really, I don't know why anyone posts anything at this point.
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  14. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    The actual moral of the story is to do good talent evaluation, not volume

    2 bags of garbage are just as bad as one bag of garbage
  15. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    "Stop living in the past" signed 'CZ homers

    Clearly "introspection" (the quality on which most knowledge is based) is not a highly regarded quality in our FO or our fans
  16. Carharris2

    Carharris2 Well-Known Member

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    Much better. Yes Super Bowl maybe 4
    Greg Ellis
    Oh. Sarcasm. I get it
  17. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Significantly better. Like by a lot.
  18. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    2011: trade down draft decastro pick up another draft pick.

    2012: draft warford in the 2nd after drafting frederick in the 1st.

    oline is fixed for at least 5 years, risen star dies in peace.

    why is this so difficult?
  19. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Is this a serious question? Highlights a glaring need for a competent GM.
  20. AmishCowboy

    AmishCowboy if you ain't first, you're last

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    Plus with Felix and Barber around no one liked the Murray pick either

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