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Huckabee, Obama, win in Iowa

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by Danny White, Jan 3, 2008.

  1. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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  2. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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    I'm no Obama fan, but it does make me feel better about things to know that people are already seeing through Hillary.
  3. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    People don't believe but I have been saying over and over. People will turn out to vote against Hillary. I'm telling you, the dems could run a telephone pole and it would beat shrill Hill.

    I figured Huckabee would win Iowa but I am not so sure it will hold up over the long haul.

    I still hope Hillary gets the Dem nod though. It'll be a walk in the park beating her.
  4. Mavs Man

    Mavs Man All outta bubble gum

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    Obama and Huckabee win first 2008 vote
    By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent
    29 minutes ago

    Barack Obama took the first step to winning the Democratic presidential nomination on Thursday with a victory in Iowa, while Mike Huckabee capped a stunning political rise to beat Republican rival Mitt Romney.

    Obama, an Illinois senator bidding to make U.S. history as the first black president, won the first Democratic test on the road to the White House with a win over New York Sen. Hillary Clinton and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, who were in a tight battle for second.

    Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor and ordained Baptist minister, was projected by television networks to beat Romney fairly easily despite being dramatically outspent by the wealthy former Massachusetts governor and venture capitalist.

    For the winner in Iowa, the prize is valuable momentum and at least a temporary claim to the front-runner's slot in their battle to win the party's presidential nomination in the November election.

    The third-place finisher in the heavyweight Democratic showdown, meanwhile, could find themselves hobbling into New Hampshire for Tuesday's primary.

    The 2008 campaign is the most open presidential race in more than 50 years, with no sitting president or vice president seeking their party's nomination.

    The loss was a heavy blow for Clinton, the former first lady who a few months ago was considered in some quarters the almost certain Democratic nominee. The loss creates immense pressure to turn around her campaign in New Hampshire over the next five days.

    Obama's win effectively makes him the candidate to beat among Democrats, and a win next week in New Hampshire could set him on a nearly unstoppable drive to the nomination. The next big contest would be in South Carolina, where more than half of the voters are black.

    Iowa voters filled gathering spots in more than 1,700 precincts around the state to declare a presidential preference in Iowa's caucuses, which open the state-by-state battle to choose candidates in the November 4 election to succeed President George W. Bush.

    In the Democratic caucuses, voters debated their options and cajoled their neighbors to switch to their candidate. Republicans conducted essentially a preference poll, casting votes soon after the caucus begins.

    For Republicans, Huckabee's upset reshaped a race where no candidate has been able to claim front-runner status.

    Iowa, where a sizable bloc of religious conservatives had fueled Huckabee's rapid rise, represented perhaps the best chance for the former Arkansas governor to break through with a win. His rise has been fueled by evangelical and religious conservatives who constitute a sizable bloc in Iowa.

    He will face tougher going in New Hampshire, where there are fewer evangelicals, and he has lingered well behind Romney and Arizona Sen. John McCain in polls.

    Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts who has had to justify his Mormon faith during the campaign, launched aggressive advertising campaigns against Huckabee and McCain in recent weeks.

    Iowa's opening contest in the nominating battle has traditionally served to winnow the presidential field of laggards and elevate some surprise contenders.

    Record turnout was expected for the Democrats, surpassing the 124,000 Iowans who participated in 2004. Republicans could challenge their record of 87,000 caucus participants in 2000.

    (Additional reporting by Matthew Bigg, Andy Sullivan, Ellen Wulhorst, Deborah Charles and Ed Stoddard; Editing by David Wiessler)
  5. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    This is a real kick in the balls to Hillary... she got crushed...

    This will be interesting now... she's a master of dirty politics... she'll now strap on a porno grade phallis and make Obama take it...

    This woman will not be denied come Hell or high water...
  6. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    jterrell must be in shock right now ..... :laugh2:
  7. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    That's how I feel about things tonight, too... please God, let ANYBODY beat out Clinton...
  8. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    LOL... man, I always knew you were a GOP partisan, but until tonight, I never realized that you're nothing more than a party hack...

    I loathe Clinton at least as much as you do, but do you really need to drag the lesbian imagery into this?? Is your problem with Clinton rooted in the fact she's a woman, or is it her politics?? With the juvenile cheap shots you keep taking at her, it would seem to be the former...
  9. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Lost in the Woods

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    Crypto-republican fo sho.
  10. The30YardSlant

    The30YardSlant Benched

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    Obama winning this primary is not a good thing for the GOP in my humble opinion. I still maintain that Billary is just too devisive even among the staunch democrats out there and her controversial reputation among her own party could ultimately cost the liberals an election that, literally, only the American democratic party could screw up. If Obama wins the nomination, the actual election will be nothing more than a formality in all likelyhood. All those democrats arguing he is too young or too unproven will fold like a cheap tent when forced to choose between him and Huckabee.

    Obama actually has it figured out. Gore, Kerry and Clinton (and the majority of our left-wing friends) spend all their time telling us how much this nation sucks and why we should be unhappy, when in fact the average Joe is extremely content with his life. Obama, on the other hand, is doing what the GOP has been for a decade now: Sit back and watch the other guy piss off America to the point that they vote for you out of hatred for said opponent. He has let Hillary make his case for him. Smart guy, and if we must have a democrat in office, I wouldnt mind it being him, especially considering the alternative will mean the end of western civilization as we know it.
  11. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    Thank God for that.
  12. heavyg

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    Im with you. I would never vote for Obama, but would feel alot better about him if he some how wins the overall election and becomes the next Prez. Wouldn't be happy about a Dem getting in but at least I wouldn't have to hide in the mountains if Hillary some how gets in
  13. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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    No one needs to drag lesbian imagery into a Hillary discussion, she drags it around on her own. :laugh2:
  14. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Bad Santa Staff Member

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    huh huh ha ha huh huh...You both said drag...huh huh ha ha huh huh
  15. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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  16. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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  17. silverbear

    silverbear Semi-Official Loose Cannon

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    I like that better than my choice of "hack"... on rereading that, I don't think he deserved that from me... it certainly reads a lot harsher than I meant it to at the time...

    Sorry, Trick... should have chosen my words a bit more carefully...
  18. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Lost in the Woods

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    Perhaps, but attacking the femininity and sexuality of powerful women taps into a long and distasteful history of misogyny, possibly revealing deep-seated anxieties and uncertainties about, shall we say, various things.

    Not saying it's the case in this instance, but sometimes the rhetoric is so malicious that it smacks of verbal rape of an uppity woman who "had it coming to her" while all the boys stand around and laugh. Sublimation, perhaps, but parallel mentalities.
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  20. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    With only 7 electorial votes I don't see why such a big deal is made about Iowa or New Hampshire with 4.

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