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Hypothetical ... If Garrett was coach of the Pats

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by DallasDW00ds0n, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. Common Sense

    Common Sense Well-Known Member

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    Garrett has more moral victories than the Patriots have Super Bowl victories since Spygate. Take that, Belichick!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  2. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Pittsburgh last year I think it was.
  3. JackWagon

    JackWagon Well-Known Member

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    Jerry would just make Bellicheck mad and he would quit just like Parcells.
  4. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    With one of best quarterbacks of all time. Also with more talented roster overall.

    The point is as a fanbase we'd probably be cruscifying him for going on 6 years without being able to win since spygate.

    We'd have threads wondering about the availability of Ed Oregeron.
  5. Plankton

    Plankton Well-Known Member

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    The Patriots won two AFC Championships in that span, and have made the playoffs in all but one season (and, in that season, went 10-6 without Brady).

    Or, in other words, one more Super Bowl appearance than Cowboy playoff wins in that span, and two more Super Bowl appearances than Jason Garrett has playoff berths.
  6. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Nobody is denying that the Patriots have experienced more success than we have over the last decade.

    Bill has accomplished what without Brady? How did he do at Cleveland?

    Our stupid fanbase would have run him out of town.
  7. Doomsay

    Doomsay Well-Known Member

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    Yet, another stupid fanbase moment.
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  8. Plankton

    Plankton Well-Known Member

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    You also uttered the gem questioning what significant win the Patriots had since Spygate broke (which was after Week One in 2007).

    They won two AFC Championship games. Are those not significant, or have the goal posts moved in the Belichick argument?
  9. Doomsay

    Doomsay Well-Known Member

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    LOL...and lost 2 super bowls with last second improbable catches + trebled our 16 year playoff win total in those 2 seasons..... Shame on Belichick.
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  10. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    It would have been nice if Bill won some super bowls here...too bad the fans would have been calling for his head after this 1st season.
  11. links18

    links18 Well-Known Member

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    What difference does it make what the fans want? They can't run anyone out-of-town. The question is what would he have done compared to Garrett?
  12. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Then hypothetically he would not be saddled with an incompetent GM.
  13. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Bill went 36-44 his first 4 years in his first ever head coaching opportunity. Only led one playoff trip in those 4 years.

    So he started off worse than Garrett has.

    He'd have been crucified by this fanbase.
  14. dupree89

    dupree89 Well-Known Member

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    Learning on the job in Cleveland is much different than learning on the job with the Dallas Cowboys. There are just some coaching positons that SHOULD have an experienced, successful, respected head coach.
    Head coach of the Cowboys is one of those positions.
  15. tecolote

    tecolote Well-Known Member

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    H
    He went 11-5 with Matt freaking Cassell. I'd say that's impressive.
  16. 17yearsandcounting

    17yearsandcounting Benched

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    1 playoff appearance and a PLAYOFF WIN. With Vinny Testeverde!

    vs.

    0 playoff appearances and 0 playoff wins with Tony Romo.

    Argument over.
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  17. dupree89

    dupree89 Well-Known Member

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    I will go one better than that. (17) games in Cleveland under Belichick, the Browns started these guys at QB due to injuries:

    Mike Tomczak
    Todd Philcox
    Eric Zeier

    Thats about like Garrett going an entire season with Stephen McGee.
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  18. koolaid

    koolaid Drink Me

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    2008 Season won 11 games with Matt Cassell at QB

    2009 Season won 10 games, lost in WC round to the ravens

    2010 Season won 14 games, lost in the divisional round of the playoffs to the NY jets

    2011 Season won 13 games, destroyed the broncos in round 1 (45-10), beat the ravens in the AFC championship game, and lost the Superbowl (due to one of the luckiest plays in football history)

    2012 Season won 12 games, won in the divisional round against the Texans. Lost the AFC championship game to the eventual SB champ Ravens.




    I would say the Pats have won a TON of meaningful games since spygate....
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  19. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    And you say Jerry is entitled and that's why this franchise will never win?

    Look at this nonsense.
  20. Toruk_Makto

    Toruk_Makto Well-Known Member

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    Which of those teams had the offensive and defensive line catastrophes that we've had over the past 3-4 years?

    Those teams were simply more talented. Winning with Matt Cassell only proves that.

    IF Bill is this genius coach who wins no matter his talent then he should have won in Cleveland.

    This is a player's league. Coaches are the scapegoats.

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