I have a feeling Suh ends up in Dallas

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by BHendri5, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    Of course Jerry knows what to do with that pick. He'll use it on an injury prone safety from a small school. Sooner or later a blind squirrel will find a nut.
  2. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    His 2015 year is voidable, and given his base salary, will certainly be voided. When he voids that year, the Lions will eat 9.7 million dollars in dead money. If they traded him now, they would gain 3 million dollars against the cap.

    Assuming the Lions don't want re-sign him before he hits free agency (and I don't believe they would be able to franchise him), they would be extremely wise to trade him.

    The team trading for Suh would have to pay him 12.5 million in base salary this year, and would have no assurance that they could keep him beyond 2014, without re-signing him before or after the trade. That is going to really hurt the compensation that the Lions receive from anyone, because they know they are negotiating from a position of weakness. I'd suggest maybe a 3rd or 4th round draft pick. Especially when you consider his history.

    Attempting to sign Suh long term however, essentially fool's game.
  3. bbailey423

    bbailey423 Well-Known Member

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    I don't what kind of season he will have....but I would not be able to wrap my mind around how a team that NEVER makes the playoffs can have ANYBODY that is the highest paid at their position. Here is what I do know. The top flight organziations (Pats, Ravens, Steelers, Packers, Giants).....they do not wind up in that situation. And of course the teams I just mentioned don't ALWAYS make the playoffs...but for the most part.....they are in the hunt. I wonder if Dallas would have the stones to do what the Giants did....and that was let Hakeem Nicks walk. Or what the Eagles did...and that was let Desean Jackson walk. Actually, when was the last time we did that with a "marquee" player? Of course we let Ware, Miles etc....walk. But look at how dire their circumstances had to become before we "let them walk"

    And I am not suggesting we let Dez walk. But something is not right if you have the highest paid WR in the NFL....and are not consistently in the hunt.
  4. PA Cowboy Fan

    PA Cowboy Fan Well-Known Member

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    Sort of like Detroit.
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  5. bbailey423

    bbailey423 Well-Known Member

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    That is correct. Your organization is structurally flawed if you have the highest paid WR in the NFL....and you are never in the hunt! Like i used to say about DeMarcus Ware. Being a top tier talent is NOT enough. Especially if you are going to be the highest paid player on the team. In a sport with a salary cap....I cannot make you the highest paid...and all you do is produce stats. Football is the ultimate team game....and you have to be a leader if you are going to own 20% of my salary cap. I don't know Calvin Johnson....but he has never appeared to me......to be someone that the other Lions players follow.
  6. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I want this to happen, but only to hear Jerry Jones try to pronounce his first name.
  7. cowboyfan4life2

    cowboyfan4life2 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think we have the cap space.
  8. casmith07

    casmith07 Attorney-at-Zone

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    I don't think so. I think we're moving away from signing defensive tackles to huge money and going with a "committee" approach like Seattle.

    The only positions I see this team paying for in the future are the premiums -- QBs, Guys Who Protect QBs, Receivers, and Guys Who Cover Receivers, and even the last one is a bit of a stretch right now. I feel like moving forward, we need more Orlando Scandricks at CB.
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  9. Jenky

    Jenky Well-Known Member

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    "donkey kong"
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  10. TheRomoSexual

    TheRomoSexual Well-Known Member

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    I doubt he even hits free agency. Players like Suh generally don't become FAs.
  11. coach steele

    coach steele Well-Known Member

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    Suh is a beast, however I don't think he will be a Cowboy for several reasons. 1. I don't think that we will have the cap space to acquire him. 2. He is not really a team player. The big news out of Detroit this offseason was that despite being a team captain, he didn't work out with the team. 3. This guy could very well end up being an Albert Haynesworth type player after signing a new deal. 4. Hopefully, we have turned the corner on going after high priced free agents and have instead decided to focus on building through the draft, picking under the radar cap friendly FA's, and signing our own.
  12. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it's voids after this season.

    Check out his fines:

    Taunting $7,875.00 11/29/2013
    Roughing the Passer $31,500.00 10/16/2013
    Low Block $100,000.00 9/10/2013
    Striking/Kicking/Kneeing $30,000.00 11/28/2012
    Reason not listed $165,294.00 11/29/2011 (2 game suspension)
    Roughing the Passer $20,000.00 8/17/2011
    Roughing the Passer $15,000.00 12/8/2010
    Roughing the Passer $7,500.00 9/3/2010
  13. Verdict

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    I like Dez and all but to make him the highest paid receiver in the league (in real dollars, not some inflated contract numbers that he will never see) would be a very bad business decision. I would try to pay Dez a fair contract which would pay him the average of the top 15 receivers in the league. He is somewhere in that discussion.

    You could make an argument that there are several receivers who are better than Dez. You could also say that Dez is better than most, if not all on that same list, other than Calvin Johnson.
  14. Animosity

    Animosity Well-Known Member

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    He's going to want 100+ million. Forget it. He's a headcase and not worth it. I think we should focus on getting our own guys signed to long term deals. Dez Bryant needs to be taken care of before the season starts.
  15. skinsscalper

    skinsscalper Well-Known Member

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    I honestly think the team is going to sign Dez to a very long contract that he actually has a good chance to see the end of (similar to Tyron's deal). No funny money just a well structured deal that keeps him in Dallas for the prime of his career.
  16. Szczepanik

    Szczepanik Well-Known Member

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    That would be a pleasant Suhprise.
  17. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    He won't and he shouldn't.
  18. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    Suhkinthebox. Suhcodemayo.

    All kidding aside: Meh on Suh; his talent is dwarfed by his mental errors.
  19. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    That would be hilarious.

    But not nearly as funny as what would go on here. I want to see it happen just for that reason.

    The people who would be so pissed because they got him would be hilarious.

    But not nearly as hilarious as all the people who wanted nothing to do with him, cause he's dirty and mean, but would be the first people on here to comment about how this defense needed a bit of nasty added to them. It would be comedy at it's best.

    Now I'm a bias person. I've been a Suh fan since his Nebraska days and I'd LOVE to see him be a Cowboys player. I absolutely do think this defense needs some nasty attitude. I'm not talking about cheap shots or late hits or nothing but good, physical, nasty play and attitude.

    I personally believe a bit of Suh's reputations as a dirty player is over blown and some things were reached for due to the fact that he did do a couple dirty things.
  20. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    And that doesn't even include the non fined head stomps does it?

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