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i know, i know, but global warming

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by iceberg, Oct 10, 2008.

  1. iceberg

    iceberg nothing is nothing Zone Supporter

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    i don't have any fear articles. i don't even have a new set of facts. but lately on TV i've been watching a lot of science/discovery/bbca channels and one topic i've seen more than i'm comfortable with is "fixing" global warming.

    how to remove the hydro-carbons from the atmosphere and so many other things from shooting rockets up that will 'help' and doing other things to our planet to try and save it.

    is this a science fiction idea gone mad? yes reduce yes live smarter and yes, do what we can to cooperate with the environment. i don't think anyone on either side of this has ever disagreed with that point. but i find it "scare me silly" dangerous that they're trying to change something that could well be just another blip on earths multi-million-year radar that is meant to correct itself.

    by doing things like this i can see causing much more damage than good in the end.

    anyone else seeing these studies? thoughts?
  2. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    You know the one good thing about all of the Palin, Obama, McCain and other things going on right now is?

    It mean less global warming threads.

    /Just goofing with you ice.:cool: Wait...username Ice, no wonder you don't like global warming.:p:
  3. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    That maybe the only good thing about all the mess. Less global warming drivel.
  4. iceberg

    iceberg nothing is nothing Zone Supporter

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    no one has noticed the free fall in oil prices either. :)

    this isn't about global warming killing the planet. we've talked about that ad nauseum. but this is about trying to "fix" a problem we're not even sure is there. the damage we could do, albiet in good faith, to me far outweighs the risk of this correcting itself if we just make changes in our own methods.
  5. Big Dakota

    Big Dakota New Member

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    "George Carlin's "The Planet Is Fine"
    We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these ****ing people kidding me? Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the ****ing planet?
    I'm getting tired of that ****. Tired of that ****. I'm tired of ****ing Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don't give a **** about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.
    Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are ****ed. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun?
    The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!
    We're going away. Pack your ****, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance.
    You wanna know how the planet's doing? Ask those people at Pompeii, who are frozen into position from volcanic ash, how the planet's doing. You wanna know if the planet's all right, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. Or how about those people in Kilowaia, Hawaii, who built their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have lava in the living room.
    The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we're gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, 'cause that's what it does. It's a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new pardigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?" Plastic...*******.
    So, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now. And I think that's begun. Don't you think that's already started? I think, to be fair, the planet sees us as a mild threat. Something to be dealt with. And the planet can defend itself in an organized, collective way, the way a beehive or an ant colony can. A collective defense mechanism. The planet will think of something. What would you do if you were the planet? How would you defend yourself against this troublesome, pesky species? Let's see... Viruses. Viruses might be good. They seem vulnerable to viruses. And, uh...viruses are tricky, always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed. Perhaps, this first virus could be one that compromises the immune system of these creatures. Perhaps a human immunodeficiency virus, making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and infections that might come along. And maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to engage in the act of reproduction.
    Well, that's a poetic note. And it's a start. And I can dream, can't I? See I don't worry about the little things: bees, trees, whales, snails. I think we're part of a greater wisdom than we will ever understand. A higher order. Call it what you want. Know what I call it? The Big Electron. The Big Electron...whoooa. Whoooa. Whoooa. It doesn't punish, it doesn't reward, it doesn't judge at all. It just is. And so are we. For a little while."
  6. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    Oh yes they have...I think I have started two threads myself about it...calling it the silver lining of this whole economic mess.
  7. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Nuts.

    Just when I am about to put dakota on ignore he posts that one.

    rats.
  8. iceberg

    iceberg nothing is nothing Zone Supporter

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    oops - you're right i didn't look first.
  9. ninja

    ninja Numbnuts

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    George Carlin had more inteligence than all those envornmental scientists combined. No joke!
  10. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    Every one just needs to shut the heck up. Every time you open your mouth you are adding to the horrific man made global warming by adding carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. I am ashamed that speech or breathing is even legal in this country. People should no longer be allowed to speak or breathe.

    We need to save the world, so will everyone please take a vow of silence until the socialists make it illegal to speak and breathe. Hopefully a new tax will be in place soon to help regulate these insane behaviors.

    Thank you.
  11. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    You seem to have a bit of mad cow disease going today. Hope you are in a better mood tomorrow. Maybe I will have Barrak lay hands on you to make you better. :p:
  12. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I have been saying the same thing for a while now.
  13. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    I hurt my back yesterday at work and am on happy pills. I have no idea what I'm posting.

    Go Obama!!!:D
  14. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    GO HAPPY PILLS. :p: ;)
  15. JBond

    JBond Well-Known Member

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    I have received 3 different voter registration cards. 2 of them from Topeka (I don't live there anymore) and one correct one. Should I vote 3 time to offset the ACORN people?

    The happy pills say I should. Vote early and vote often.:D
  16. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    I do what the voices in my head tell me to do.

    Sometimes that excuse works for me, you could give it a try.

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