I think Greg Ellis is playing almost as well as Ware

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by zrinkill, Sep 18, 2006.

  1. zrinkill

    zrinkill Diamond surrounded by trash

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    I think Greg is playing almost as well as Ware ...... they looked like clones out there last night and think that if Ellis sticks around for a while they can take over games (after they both learn the position completley)

    Great suprise
  2. Frozen700

    Frozen700 Well-Known Member

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    yea im happy thoose 2 are forming a tag team type relationship
  3. EPL0c0

    EPL0c0 The Funcooker

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    I could swear that Ellis was getting held by Jansen A LOT toward the end of the game and it wasn't getting called. There was at least one play where it was VERY clear that Ellis' jersey was getting yanked (down around the ribs on his right side), yet no call...

    He may think its more difficult, but IMO, he's playing the best ball I've seen him play
  4. sago1

    sago1 Active Member

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    Don't see any reason why Ellis won't stick around since he's got about 3-4 more years left on his contract & Cowboys weren't willing part with him this year. Also his backup this year is Al Singleton whose in last year of his 4 year contract with us. The guy behind Singleton was Carpenter who was moved inside--but don't know if inside move was just an effort to get Carpenter some playing time this year/increase his versatility or make him a legit ILB. Anyway, assuming Singleton won't be back in 07, seems to me that means Burnett & Carpenter(?) would be competiting for #2 OLB behind Ellis (Burnett already Ware's backup). On the other hand, maybe Carpenter's destiny is to supplant Ayodale next year. That would tick me off only because I thought we used our first pick to pick up legit OLB. Oh well, it's too early to worry about that.
  5. Jarv

    Jarv Loud pipes saves lives. Zone Supporter

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    I like how they meet at the QB. If they keep it up it will start to remind me of the bet that Too Tall and Too mean had one year (Bet a case of beer, who would get more scaks), 4-3 bookends racing to the QB.

    When will Ellis come out and actually say this was a good thing after all ?
  6. hmcorp

    hmcorp Member

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    We finally started switching up.

    It was awesome. Ellis moving to the right ware moving to the left.

    We had a lot of pressure on brunnell tonight. It gave him hoppy feet.

    Now for tennessee.

    Who will be 0-3 and hungry for a win...that is what parcells likes to call a trap game.
  7. hipfake08

    hipfake08 Well-Known Member

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    Ellis played well at the start but I did not see much of him till later in the game.
  8. Hiero

    Hiero New Member

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    I really liked that they switched them around some, and Ware had that sack or pressure from the left side. Titans might be starting Vince Young by that week, so our defense should be able to take over.
  9. TwoSteppinJJ

    TwoSteppinJJ Active Member

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    God I hope not we would pummel my boy Vince!
  10. TwoSteppinJJ

    TwoSteppinJJ Active Member

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    Nobodys mentioned this in the thread, but Ellis is slowly turning into McGinest I love it!
  11. conner01

    conner01 Well-Known Member

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    i loved the holding call against ellis. they pick up the flag because he broke loose from the hold? what is that?
  12. Mash

    Mash Active Member

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    Ellis is going to get exposed.....they did throw a few out there and he doesnt have the quickness to play the flat.

    Ellis does play the run well....and he does get a push when rushing the passer....but he is a DE and I would just have him in the nickle package when we put 4 DL on the field.

    Last nite....Washington used a vanilla offence....run....run...pass......I wouldnt put him even close to what Ware is as a LB.

  13. Doomsday

    Doomsday Rising Star

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    Yea I never heard of that before. Thats like saying hes so much better then you go ahead and hold him hes going to toast you anyway.
  14. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    On a side note... we should have drafted Merriman ;)
  15. Danny White

    Danny White Winter is Coming

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    Exactly. Isn't the whole point of flagging a hold to penalize them for illegally slowing the player down?

    That HAD to have been a botched call.
  16. lspain1

    lspain1 Active Member

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    Ellis is not slow.....but he is not comfortable dropping into coverage. They did throw a couple of slants into his area last night. I would expect to see that continue. I do believe Ellis will improve as he sees more of it.
  17. Mash

    Mash Active Member

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    I agree that Ellis will improve because of being more comfortable....but for a LB......Ellis is slow......a few times the Washington RB just ran around him in open space.....Ellis is not quick enough to play the flat....more teams will see this and expose it......

    Ellis strength is stopping the run and rushing the passer when he is put as a DL.

    BTW.....I also think Carpenter is too slow for OLB and I believe that is one of the reason he was moved inside.
  18. BIGDen

    BIGDen Dr. Freakasaurus

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    I agree 100%. Ellis can pass rush and play the run well, but he is not nearly as agile as Ware and will likely be exposed when we play guys Tiki and Westbrook who are good out of the backfield. He's perfect for the nickel, but guys like Singleton/Carpenter/Burnett might be better able to handle backs out of the backfield.
  19. ykc

    ykc Active Member

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    What do you guys think of Ware? I was a little disappointed in the 4th quarter when the Redskins are in a one dimensional passing mode, he didn't get any pressure/sacks in that situation. I love Ware, but just a little disappointed that he didn't dominate in that scenario.
  20. alancdc

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    I thought Spears played really a good game last night. I think if healthy he is going to be a monster.

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