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I'd be bringing in Richard Seymour sooner than later

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by PoetTree, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    Well if you truly believe Spencer only had 1 1/2 good seasons here in Dallas than I guess that's where we end this lol. It wasn't that he was worth 11 million. He was franchise tagged and the tag allowed for him to be paid 11 million. The Spencer was a GREAT move. It didn't work but you franchise tagged him and didn't sign him long term.
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  2. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    If they let Spencer go, and say Spencer signed with Philly or Washington and stayed healthy, and had 6 sacks right now how many threads would be on here saying how do you let our best dline men go?
  3. yimyammer

    yimyammer Well-Known Member

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    hate that guy, did anyone see him snickering on ESPN a few ago when talking about how he pulled one on Jerry and knew he was done before he even signed the contract and came to Dallas? This should put a fire in whomever makes these decisions belly to think real hard about handing over contracts to players where the Cowboys lose all leverage and are forced to put up with whatever crap the whims of that player is leading him (hello jay Ratliff--you never should have gotten a contract extension)
  4. Doomsday

    Doomsday Rising Star

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    In today's NFL it is better to let a guy go a year early than a year late. Spencer and Ratliff should of been gone.
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  5. yimyammer

    yimyammer Well-Known Member

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    let him walk....they should have planned for this years in advance but deals like the Roy Willy trade & Ratliff extension consumed cap space, removed any leverage they could have had with a player and keep others players from developing...again the cowboys poor management forces their hand as they felt desperate to have him because they had no other options that were developing in prior years. They could have grabbed a guy like Bennett and and another Dlineman on one year deals and still had cap room leftover by letting him walk

    I'm just glad they were unable to reach a deal with Spence but I can't be too excited about that because I can't really give much credit to the Cowboys for not doing a deal as they probably would have if Spencer had been willing to take a few million less
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  6. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    Same people would be rueing Spencer....I already know man. This place is about as predictable as it gets.....
  7. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    Let your best player on defense last season walk......I guess its easy to say now since he's hurt but had Jerry done that and Spencer had success with his new team you and many other posters would be making threads about "Why didn't we franchise Spencer...?".
  8. yimyammer

    yimyammer Well-Known Member

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    A good Gm shouldn't give a rats *** what a bunch of fans think on a forum and certainly shouldn't be bound by their potential rue-age and if the GM was worth a damn, a plan for Spencers' and other players replacements should have been in the works years ago. A good statistical analysis on the ROI of players at various ages should be seriously considered when making a long term deal with any aging player. Outside of offensive linemen and the QB, I think very few long term contracts should be given to players approaching or above 30 years of age but perhaps Adam can pop in with one of his great knowledge bombs and show this isn't the case
  9. SlwSVT

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    Seymour would work if he would take an incentive laced deal. I believe Waters took something like that. Only problem then would be the cap. Would have to do some restructing and not sure what players they could do that to. Nevertheless, Seymour being out of football would probably take a month or so to get in football shape.
  10. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    10 H
  11. cowboys1981

    cowboys1981 Well-Known Member

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    Seymour will not play a down for us. I still like Powe. He'd be cheaper and was cut from KC. He was a NT that got bumped with Poe being drafted. He could have an impact like Nevis.
  12. ufcrules1

    ufcrules1 Well-Known Member

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    You act like Spencer has been wonderful since he has been here. The truth is, he hasn't been. Last year was an anomaly with Spencer. Why do you think we were cautious about signing him long term?
  13. Cowboy Brian

    Cowboy Brian Romo 2 Austin Zone Supporter

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    I'd do it if we could work out the money.
  14. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    Who was better than Spencer for this defense last year?
  15. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Ware, despite his injuries obviously. Your hero could not get more sacks then a player that was more than half crippled; Frankly Lee was better as well.
  16. rocyaice

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    No he hasn't been wonderful but he had a great year last year. Hatcher is having a great year this year too and probably is our best defensive player this year. Do you let him walk? Hatcher may be a different case since he's not 28 or 29 like Spencer was but you should do whatever it takes to bring Hatch back. For the right price of course. If its a 1 year deal you do it. We got Spencer on a 1 year deal. We took a small gamble and it didn't work. But not because of the player but because of a injury. It happens. You can't be upset because a player got hurt. Its the NFL. It happens.

    Just curious but what would've made it worth while? What would Spencer have had to do in order for you not to complain about franchising him for one year? If he made the Pro Bowl and had 13 to 15 sacks and constantly got pressure on the qb would it had been enough?
  17. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    Ware and Lee were hurt last year lol. How on earth were they better?
  18. Nation

    Nation Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Are we really going to use sacks to grade our strong-side player on? ProFootballFocus had Spencer as our #1 defender in 2012, #5 in 2011, #3 in 2010, and #2 in 2009. I've never seen someone misjudged the way Spencer was for A) Admitting the team packed it in in 2010 and B) Not racking up 10+ sacks a year across from a 10+ sack edge rusher, which nobody does.
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  19. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    Because people are too fascinated with stats. Nevermind that Spencers plays our strongside which is also a GREAT point but stats doesn't show the potential game winning sacks Spencer had for us last season in the 4th quarter. Spencer was our best player on defense last season.
  20. fifaguy

    fifaguy Well-Known Member

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    don't have the money..

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